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A Call to Arms

stainless1911

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The only problem I saw was the part where it said the legislature can't take away your rights. That isn't true, that's in a sense, all they really can do. Take the extreme hypothetical where there is no government, no legislature, no law enforcement. You have the inherent right to self defense, you can carry a silenced minigun around with a thousand round ammo box for a magazine into a school hidden under a blanket without a CPL,alternately loaded with incendiary, armor piercing, explosive tipped, and tracer rounds. All the legislatures can do, is systematically whittle away at our rights, until all there is left is death upon the discovery of the unloaded disassembled 22 short you had hidden in a burial tube just off your property.
 
SlowDog

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I believe what he was saying is they can't take away our rights as long as we stand together united and hold the politicians feet to the fire.....
 
TheSzerdi

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It's true that legislature can't grant you rights that you already have, but they can't take them away either. They can put restrictions on paper, but those restrictions don't actually take your rights. At most they can take your life.

In any case, that is not the purpose of legislature. The purpose of legislature is to set up a system of rules to create and continue order. Any body with such a purpose will, of course, continue to impose order until the system is so stratified as to become stasis. This is why the individual must continually counter order with choice, with freedom.
 
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Bikenut

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TheSzerdi said:
It's true that legislature can't grant you rights that you already have, but they can't take them away either. They can put restrictions on paper, but those restrictions don't actually take your rights. At most they can take your life.
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Quoted for truth!!!
 
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glock2340

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If I'm reading the article that was linked correctly,
it said a man carried a SHOTGUN into a library.

A SHOT GUN????????? COME ON PEOPLE.

Of course there were issues. Who the HELL needs a SHOTGUN in a public library? If it were a pistol on your hip, then there would have been minimal confrontations, but a SHOTGUN is asking for trouble. Even I would question the man; probably after crapping my pants at the sight. It probably looked like he was there to assasinate someone.

You guys are going way overboard on this ****!
What happened to your peaceful picnics and awareness mini-seminars?
Now your all going around and sticking it in peoples faces.. GET A JOB!

I as a law abiding pistol carrier can empathize with the Lansing Police Department. What are they supposed to think when they walk apon a man with a shotgun in a public place?

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
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maustin195

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glock2340 said:
If I'm reading the article that was linked correctly,
it said a man carried a SHOTGUN into a library.

A SHOT GUN????????? COME ON PEOPLE.

Of course there were issues. Who the HELL needs a SHOTGUN in a public library? If it were a pistol on your hip, then there would have been minimal confrontations, but a SHOTGUN is asking for trouble. Even I would question the man; probably after crapping my pants at the sight. It probably looked like he was there to assasinate someone.

You guys are going way overboard on this ****!
What happened to your peaceful picnics and awareness mini-seminars?
Now your all going around and sticking it in peoples faces.. GET A JOB!

I as a law abiding pistol carrier can empathize with the Lansing Police Department. What are they supposed to think when they walk apon a man with a shotgun in a public place?

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Apparently you can't or choose not to read what this is about. First off the library is asking anyone with lawfully carried pistol to leave. Secondly the Lansing Police are on the side of lawful carriers because they will not even respond to the library's call because they believe there is nothing they canlegally do. If the TRO was about the shotgun carried one time by a non member and not lawfully carried pistols then why is MOC listed ?
 
PDinDetroit

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glock2340 said:
If I'm reading the article that was linked correctly,
it said a man carried a SHOTGUN into a library.

A SHOT GUN????????? COME ON PEOPLE.

Of course there were issues. Who the HELL needs a SHOTGUN in a public library? If it were a pistol on your hip, then there would have been minimal confrontations, but a SHOTGUN is asking for trouble. Even I would question the man; probably after crapping my pants at the sight. It probably looked like he was there to assasinate someone.

You guys are going way overboard on this ****!
What happened to your peaceful picnics and awareness mini-seminars?
Now your all going around and sticking it in peoples faces.. GET A JOB!

I as a law abiding pistol carrier can empathize with the Lansing Police Department. What are they supposed to think when they walk apon a man with a shotgun in a public place?

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I suggest you do a little more research before posting. I'll provide the following for your reading pleasure:

PDinDetroit said:
People seem to focusing on 1 person OC'ing a Shotgun 1 time at CADL (who is not a MOC Member), but the majority of persons who went into CADL were Openly Carrying Pistols in Holsters with 1 person harassed by Security and the Lansing Police even when they were not carrying at all (READ: Profiled as being a Firearm Owner since they spoke for Firearm Rights publicly). It is for these people's rights that I PP'ed a Few Hundred $$$$$ right away and put off a firearm/accessory purchase until a later date. This is a FIGHT we ought to make, especially given the totality of the circumstances.
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dougwg said:
Some may ask why was he carrying a long gun...I know the answer.

BECAUSE LANSING POLICE WILL NOT ISSUE HIM A PURCHASE PERMIT.

Their reason... NONE!

They just don't want to do it.

He didn't respect their authority, and this is how the little babies in Lansing get back at him.

Total BS!

He can't get a hand gun PP and isn't old enough to get a CPL so his ONLY CHOICE is to LGOC.

He's being forced by the LANSING POLICE to do what he did.

So, all you.....people.....getting all bent because he LGOC'd need to ****!

This is about CADL and PEOPLE THAT OWN GUNS AND CARRY THEM FOR PERSONAL PROTECTION, period!

You don't have to stand with us, but for god's sake don't stand against us! And if anyone asks you, just say CADL is wrong in this and leave all the rest out of the conversation.
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PDinDetroit said:
I do not see the need for LGOC for my Personal Protection at this time, but it is not up to me to decide for someone else. There may come a time when I believe LGOC would be best for me, as I didn't start carrying for my self-protection until 2009 (when I was 43 yo).

I am far more concerned with what has happened to other persons, especially that one of us was harassed by Security and the Lansing Police when they were not even carrying (READ: Targeted/Profiled just for speaking about Firearm Rights at CADL Board Meetings and Lansing City Council).
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Bikenut

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glock2340 said:
If I'm reading the article that was linked correctly,
it said a man carried a SHOTGUN into a library.

A SHOT GUN????????? COME ON PEOPLE.

Of course there were issues. Who the HELL needs a SHOTGUN in a public library? If it were a pistol on your hip, then there would have been minimal confrontations, but a SHOTGUN is asking for trouble. Even I would question the man; probably after crapping my pants at the sight. It probably looked like he was there to assasinate someone.

You guys are going way overboard on this ****!
What happened to your peaceful picnics and awareness mini-seminars?
Now your all going around and sticking it in peoples faces.. GET A JOB!

I as a law abiding pistol carrier can empathize with the Lansing Police Department. What are they supposed to think when they walk apon a man with a shotgun in a public place?

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Good grief! Another gun owner who has the notion that folks have the right to keep and bear arms as long as they do it in the way he, in his infinite wisdom, thinks is acceptable.

Where is the "puke" emoticon?
 
stainless1911

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