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    Gunshot 'GPS' could help in neighborhoods

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/116785178.html

    This seems like a pretty neat technology. However, perhaps they should patrol more in those areas where violence in high? Oh wait, police can't be everywhere. Maybe honest citizens should be armed where and when they please? And besides, this system is not going to help with stabbing or beatings. In fact, most rapes are done with no inanimate objects. It seems Milwaukee thinks only "gun violence" is the only type of violence out there.
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    My neighbors don't need GPS to know where gun shots come from in my neighborhood!!

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    While the concept is interesting I don't think that all of Milwaukee should have to pay for a system just in the ghettos. What the police should try to do is arrest and hold violent offenders, not wait for them to go out shooting before they come to get them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anmut View Post
    While the concept is interesting I don't think that all of Milwaukee should have to pay for a system just in the ghettos. What the police should try to do is arrest and hold violent offenders, not wait for them to go out shooting before they come to get them.
    Or keep them in prison instead of releasing them? Or better yet, reinstate capital punishment for WI. Then the violent criminals will be kept off the street!
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    So the response time is fast enough to intercept the projectile before hitting it's target? If not, why waste the time and money? Instead, why not empower the people to be able to defend themselves and take the criminal elopement off the streets and keep them locked up?

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    $500,000 for a military tool designed for locating snipers? If you got snipers pinning down patrols; you got more problems than just their location...other than that, how 'bout ya just roll the window down; and listen...daah!!!
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    I am against ANY Tax payer funded "Big Brother" Technology that is used against the American People, that goes with Camera's all over the place.
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    Milwaukee just kicked out how many hundreds of thousands of dollars
    for a radio system that dont work.

    If they wanna know where the gunshots are comin from
    extrapalate the data from the dead guy.

    Here's a hint...if its inside my door way they wont have far to look.

    Let us do our job protecting our selves,and we wont need this B.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurchiron View Post
    how 'bout ya just roll the window down; and listen...daah!!!
    No ****. That's what I was thinking.

    According to Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn, in some places people don't even bother calling 911 after hearing a gunshot.
    The dipsh*t knows where "some places" are. So that's where his Troops are located as well. Right?


    (ah-ha, censor program didn't see that one coming now did it!)
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    Leave it Milwaukee to find yet another new way to waste colossal sums of cash on crap that won't solve the problem.
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    Agreed.
    So far nothing has solved the problem.
    Of Flynn and his wandering trouser snake.
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    Angry Let's just walk around that elephant in the room....

    What a great idea; for a half million dollars, the police will now know exactly where to go to tag 'em, bag 'em, and fill out a report. Maybe this is an initiative to save gas in the cruisers.

    Did they ever think that maybe the reason residents don't call in gun shots any more is because nothing timely or useful is ever done about it. Let's just walk around that elephant in the room....
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandyHamlet View Post
    Agreed.
    So far nothing has solved the problem.
    Of Flynn and his wandering trouser snake.
    He should go away, no arguing that. Sad thing is that they will hire another just like him. As long as there is a Lib in the mayor's office nothing will change.

    Another thing that does not help is aldermen screaming bloody murder when police try to clean out the hood.
    Last edited by oak1971; 02-24-2011 at 01:52 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davegran View Post
    What a great idea; for a half million dollars, the police will now know exactly where to go to tag 'em, bag 'em, and fill out a report. Maybe this is an initiative to save gas in the cruisers.

    Did they ever think that maybe the reason residents don't call in gun shots any more is because nothing timely or useful is ever done about it. Let's just walk around that elephant in the room....
    They don't call it in because they hate the police more than the gang bangers.
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    Same diff.

    Only the cops name theirs on after a comic book character called the Punisher.
    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
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    "Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by oak1971 View Post
    Leave it Milwaukee to find yet another new way to waste colossal sums of cash on crap that won't solve the problem.
    But, you don't understand. This is Federal money, it's not like it comes from the taxpayers.....

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    ok maybe i am wrong here but seems to me this requires microphones and said microphones could (not saying they will but just could) be used for "spying" on people. Again i am not even implying the police would be the ones doing this but anything can be hacked and miss used..... just saying

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    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
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    "Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
    Alexcabbie

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    Doesn't Janesville have a similar system in place already? HAs that system ever been of any use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul@paul-fisher.com View Post
    But, you don't understand. This is Federal money, it's not like it comes from the taxpayers.....
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blayze View Post
    Beloit installed it about 2 years ago. 219,000 dollars to cover one square mile. The above article is a good one.
    The current ShotSpotter system cost $219,000, of which $50,000 came from the CIP Budget and $163,000 from federal earmarks, according to Jacobs.

    Jacobs said, however, it is important to keep expenses in perspective.

    For example, he said it costs $100,000 a year to house the department’s prisoners
    Say what? That's twice the average income!

    Also I'm supposed to believe they had 326 guns going off in one square mile???

    BULLSH*T.

    Where is all that led raining down? Unless of course they are talking Beloit, Afghanistan.

    Last edited by HandyHamlet; 02-24-2011 at 05:47 PM.
    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
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    "Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
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    Milwaukee PD talk about it on their page as well:

    https://www.facebook.com/milwaukeepo...56615214392040
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    i have little respect, and give little credence to the crowings of the chief of police who has promiced to put law abiding citizens on the ground, ie; prone them out, who are exercising their Constitutional rights. they are no better than chief knobby in my book.

    added on edit; my computer is crap, and i put this in the wrong thread, but it still applies, now i gotta go past it over to the milwaukee thread.


    there, that's better.

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    Old anaconda in the pants Flynn claims 101 gunshots in 30 day in just one part if the city.

    Seriously. How is that even possible? Where are all these bullets going? Where is the property damage? The collateral damage? Why aren't bullets tearing through houses killing sleeping children? That's always what happens when gang bangers try to take out people in Chicago. Someone else always gets hit like three blocks away. So where is the carnage?

    If this bullsh*t was even remotely true the streets would be slippery with the blood of innocent bystanders.
    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
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    "Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandyHamlet View Post
    Old anaconda in the pants Flynn claims 101 gunshots in 30 day in just one part if the city.

    Seriously. How is that even possible? Where are all these bullets going? Where is the property damage? The collateral damage? Why aren't bullets tearing through houses killing sleeping children? That's always what happens when gang bangers try to take out people in Chicago. Someone else always gets hit like three blocks away. So where is the carnage?

    If this bullsh*t was even remotely true the streets would be slippery with the blood of innocent bystanders.
    I think someone for got to tell him he cant count the shot at the local shooting range in his figures

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