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    Madison Police Chief Quote:

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    "Our department works hard dialoging with those who are exercising their First Amendment right, those from both sides of the issue, to make sure we are doing everything we can to ensure they can demonstrate safely."

    Too bad he doesn't have the same philosphy about the 2nd.

    http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...cc4c002e0.html
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    flippr i was thinking that same idea
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    or the 4th...
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

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    So in his mind, and the mind of local media, the Gov of Wisco answers to him? Tough talk from the head cop of hippie town. How noble.

    Pass the tofu pitas please.
    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper View Post
    Too bad he doesn't have the same philosphy about the 2nd
    +1

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    Leave it to Madison PD to cherry pick the Constitution.
    In God I trust. Everyone else needs to keep your hands where I can see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oak1971 View Post
    Leave it to Madison PD to cherry pick the Constitution.
    plus 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    plus 1.
    What McX said.
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    i have little respect, and give little credence to the crowings of the chief of police who has promiced to put law abiding citizens on the ground, ie; prone them out, who are exercising their Constitutional rights. they are no better than chief knobby in my book.

    added on edit; my computer is crap, and i put this in the wrong thread, but it still applies, now i gotta go past it over to the milwaukee thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandyHamlet
    Pass the tofu pitas please.
    Hey, now, both tofu & pitas are tasty with the right accompaniment.

    But I'm surprised that the Chief would make such a comment, publicly, when he knows he's facing lawsuits for actions against the Constitution... just another Amendment.
    Be sure to keep tabs on that little quote, to be used against him in a court of law.
    (BTW, I read the article & didn't see that quote included. Where's it from?)
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    You are right. I tend to be very dramatic till I've hit my third pot of coffee.

    Tofu pitas go great with a side of failed careers. Flavor? Wisconsin Police Chief. Madison or Milwaukee, makes no difference as long as you like pork. The blood of Union leaders goes well too. And it's still fresh. Throw in a PeTArd fondue and we are looking at a capitol shindig!
    Last edited by HandyHamlet; 02-25-2011 at 02:12 PM. Reason: get it? "capitol" shindig? I should get one of those tweetie things the kids rave about.
    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."
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    "Some time ago, a bunch of lefties defied the law by dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, resulting in their arrests. Last week, a bunch of them pulled the same stunt and - using patented Lefist techniques - provoked the Park Police into having to use force to arrest them."
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    Seems to me like the Madison Police Chief is allowing the protesters to break the Law. According to the requirements set forth to obtain a Permit ( Insurance liability, the permit is only good for a set amount of time & a set amount of Hours, each day ) & in the rules of things you can do + CAN'T DO at the capitol..these Protesters are breaking every rule yet the Liberal Police Chief is looking the other way....... Makes me sick. What about health code violations, etc. They need to lock the Capitol doors after 9 pm...make em protest OUTSIDE. Someone should call the Police to ask it the Protesters obtained the needed permits for a crowd over 10,000 , Insurance, $3000.00 deposit, etc, etc, etc


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    no totality of circumstances for them huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper View Post
    Quote:

    "Our department works hard dialoging with those who are exercising their First Amendment right, those from both sides of the issue, to make sure we are doing everything we can to ensure they can demonstrate safely."

    Too bad he doesn't have the same philosphy about the 2nd.

    http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...cc4c002e0.html
    What a lying dick. These are the ******** that need to be eliminated as part of WI becoming a free state. The people spoke in November. They told him and his scumbag nazis to get bent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oak1971 View Post
    Leave it to Madison PD to cherry pick the Constitution.
    Exactly!

    Quote Originally Posted by HandyHamlet View Post
    So in his mind, and the mind of local media, the Gov of Wisco answers to him? Tough talk from the head cop of hippie town. How noble.

    Pass the tofu pitas please.
    Tofu pitas???

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger View Post
    What a lying dick. These are the ******** that need to be eliminated as part of WI becoming a free state. The people spoke in November. They told him and his scumbag nazis to get bent.
    Yup!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Hey, now, both tofu & pitas are tasty with the right accompaniment.

    But I'm surprised that the Chief would make such a comment, publicly, when he knows he's facing lawsuits for actions against the Constitution... just another Amendment.
    Be sure to keep tabs on that little quote, to be used against him in a court of law.
    (BTW, I read the article & didn't see that quote included. Where's it from?)
    now that's V..e...r..y interesting. It was a direct copy and paste. I don't see it now either.
    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
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