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    Exclamation (Milwaukee) ~ Open Carry Activist Charged with murder in fatal shooting...


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    There was no report of the shooter being intoxicated, yet both of the targets had just come from the bar. Their story appears a bit contrived; while the shooters was quite straightforward.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it was a foiled car jacking. The DA will probably make the shooters life miserable, either way, due to his civil suits against the local law enforcement.
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    On a related note to this case, the OC'er has already been granted 2 unsupervised visits to CA, while out on Bail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iopencarry View Post
    On a related note to this case, the OC'er has already been granted 2 unsupervised visits to CA, while out on parole.
    Bail, not parole. He would have to have been convicted in order to be paroled.

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    True, sorry for the mistake.

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    Setting aside guilt or innocence for a moment, if convicted this incident will set open carry back everywhere. The antis will jump all over this.
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    Gentlemen, for thee most part we are trying not to discuss, nor debate this over in the Wisconsin forum, as to not give any information, nor 'ammunition' to the antis, and prosecution. something you may wish to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    Gentlemen, for thee most part we are trying not to discuss, nor debate this over in the Wisconsin forum, as to not give any information, nor 'ammunition' to the antis, and prosecution. something you may wish to consider.
    Seriously? The story is out there. If the anti's want information, they already have it. Not discussing it, unless one is an actual participant, is fairly silly.

    We have had one or two incidents in MN and have discussed them on several boards. There is no damage that can be done by other, non-participants, discussing an active case.

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    There are bound to be some open carry incidents from time to time. Those are law enforcement problems, Just like some nut in a car runs into a bunch of people at a bus stop. Don't mix apples and cucumbers.

    It's not a constitutional problem. The 1st amendment isn't going to be suspended because someone yells "fire" in a crowded theatre when there is no fire.

    As for our image, I think it's pretty good, considering that we are in an anti-gun state.
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    Off topic.

    What does this have to do with California? Wasn't this incident in Wisconsin?
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    I read the story looks like self defense to me.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    What does this have to do with California? Wasn't this incident in Wisconsin?
    Any and all open carry incidents throughout the land will be used by anti's here.
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    this is from May 13 of last year guys. Why are you just now posting this?

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    Well even if they were trying to steal the car...and if they were unarmed.. deadly force does not seem justified. granted there is limited info in the stories.

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    there is no such thing as an unarmed man. There may be a man carrying no weapons, but that doesn't render him offense-less or incapable of murder or mayhem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    I hope this guy gets a good lawyer and hasnt already made the mistake of talking to police.

    He is assumed innocent and I dont see enough information to convict him of murder.
    If it's possible to indict a ham sandwich, I think that it's also possible, considering the jury pool we have available these days, to connect a corpse with someone in the vicinity with a firearm for the purposes of ascribing guilt.
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