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    Toys R Us - no longer gun friendly

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    Response - 02/15/2011 07:10 PM
    Dear Robert Bondi,

    Thank you for taking the time to share your comments with us. We value all your feedback, positive and negative, as it helps us to understand how our guests feel and gives us an opportunity to evaluate any possible issues.

    At Toys “R” Us, Inc., the safety and security of our customers and our employees is, and always has been, our highest priority. As a retailer that welcomes millions of kids and families into our stores across the country each year, we take our responsibility to create only the safest shopping environment very seriously. While we respect citizens’ rights to carry firearms in public areas according to certain state laws, our company policy prohibits customers from doing so in any of our stores out of an abundance of caution for the safety and protection of the children and families shopping with us.

    Sincerely,

    Nathan Pavlish
    “R” Us Guest Relations

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    So, Iwonder if they intend to install metal detectors and do pat down searches at the entrances of their stores in order to prevent bad guys from carrying in their stores. How else would they be able to ensure "the safety and protection of the children and families shopping with us."

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    Toys R Us is still around??? News to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by therealcombat View Post
    Toys R Us is still around??? News to me!
    Store locator: http://tinyurl.com/286n4c2

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    for god's sake, think of the children!

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    A co-worker of mine ran across what appears to have been one of the first stores in the nation to post, here in Lynchburg, VA late last summer. There are a couple threads on OCDO, both in the Virginia forum and general forum to let people know. I guess word didn't get 'round.

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    Who shops Brick & Mortar anymore? That's like writing a check at the grocery store!

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    . While we respect citizens’ rights to carry firearms in public areas according to certain state laws, our company policy prohibits customers from doing so in any of our stores out of an abundance of caution for the safety and protection of the children and families shopping with us.
    = we don't respect those rights

    Come on companies, man up and say it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawnos View Post
    = we don't respect those rights

    Come on companies, man up and say it!
    Its insulting when they think they are so smart they can talk over us without us catching on. If they really cared about the safety of there employees and guests they would be encouraging open carry
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    What's next having to check your firearm in order to log onto there web site?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deanf View Post
    Who shops Brick & Mortar anymore? That's like writing a check at the grocery store!
    People who give s#*t about pouring money back into their local economy vs. sending it to CA and other such foreign countries for starters. People who care about their neighbor having a job more than saving a buck online every time they need something.

    Dean, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but your statement befuddles me. Do you not shop at a local grocery store, since you brought it up? That is a Brick and Mortar. Do you order your tires online or go to a tire shop? Do you go to a coffee shop or order your latte's online? If you still do any of these things locally then You, my friend, still shop at a Brick and Mortar.

    Back to the topic. Thank you M1gunr for bringing this to our attention locally. I don't personally shop at Toys R Us, but I do like being informed on where I should and shouldn't spend my money based on how they value my right and ability to protect myself.
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    Good reason to buy elsewhere.
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    Dean, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but your statement befuddles me. Do you not shop at a local grocery store, since you brought it up?
    Not trying to pick a fight? Then why the absurd counter arguments? Buy my coffee on-line? Please . . . .

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    Thank God my grandkids have grown up enough that my wife and I don't have to shop at Toy's R Us anymore. The one we shopped at was essentially a day care center for 4-8 year olds. Running up and down aisles, opening toys and playing with them, leaving the box and toy in the middle of the aisle when they were done, riding all the "riding toys".

    All this with no parent noticeable and certainly no supervision by staff.


    And yes SnarlyWino, I do buy my tires online. Ever hear of Tire Rack. They stock tires that are totally unavailable in many markets. If you go to the tire shop, more likely than not some of these tires will be ordered by them and then sold to you at a healthy markup. If you're buying tires and wheels Tire Rack will mount them, balance them, and ship them to you ready to just bolt on your car. BTW, Hank and Wilma, the owners in South Bend, IN appreciate the business.

    As for shopping at Brick and Mortar only if not getting gouged and taken for granted. If my "neighbor" wants to have a job in the area of taking customers he/she'll have to do just that. Take care of customers. If they want to feel like they are entitled to the business just because they "need the job" the'll lose out to the "lowest price" everytime. Think Nordstroms vs K-Mart where one provides service and makes money and the other had to merge with Sears just to stay alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deanf View Post
    Not trying to pick a fight? Then why the absurd counter arguments? Buy my coffee on-line? Please . . . .
    Yes, the coffee was an absurd argument. It was mentioned to reflect what I perceived as the absurdity of your original reply, but I concede.

    Amlevin. I typed that expecting someone to make that exact example. Good for you. I am not suggesting that we all should choose to buy local as opposed to online every time. And I don't want to get gouged by high prices or receive poor service any more than you do. But there are lots of local businesses that will go out of there way to treat me well and give me a fair deal. What I was suggesting in response to Dean's post was that there are lots of good people for lots of good reasons that still shop at "Brick n's Mortar" retailers and that his post, if not intended sarcastically, was a little short sighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnarlyWino View Post
    Do you order your tires online or go to a tire shop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnarlyWino View Post
    Yes, the coffee was an absurd argument. It was mentioned to reflect what I perceived as the absurdity of your original reply, but I concede.
    Not that absurd, I know a lot of people that buy their coffee beans online, then roast the beans themselves. Some order their groceries through amazon. Depends on the person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawnos View Post
    Not that absurd, I know a lot of people that buy their coffee beans online, then roast the beans themselves. Some order their groceries through amazon. Depends on the person.
    Don't forget Safeway and Albertsons that have online grocery service. Beats trying to push a cart down the candy and snack aisle past the Wide Loads can't seem to move any faster than a good old Northwest Slug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    Don't forget Safeway and Albertsons that have online grocery service. Beats trying to push a cart down the candy and snack aisle past the Wide Loads can't seem to move any faster than a good old Northwest Slug.

    Seattle slug?
    http://www.taylorfreelance.com/seattle_slug.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawnos View Post
    If you don't have a Glock you don't need one of these.

    Sig anyone?
    "If I shoot all the ammo I am carrying I either won't need anymore or more won't help"

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    LOL well which toys R us is this? Oddly enough I was at the Southhill(puyallup) mall store lastnight with ma shiny new glock 17 on my hip. Nobody said anything, didnt see any signs either. DOnt they have to post a sign or something before they can make a big stink about it? Anyways... anyone else been to the southhill store and had problems?

    Myabe it was because I had my pregnant wife with me who looks like she is about to pop, and we were shopping for baby stuff...
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    Well, I never shop at toys r us and now will never shop there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1Gunr View Post
    I found this on another forum......

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    Response - 02/15/2011 07:10 PM
    Dear Robert Bondi,

    Thank you for taking the time to share your comments with us. We value all your feedback, positive and negative, as it helps us to understand how our guests feel and gives us an opportunity to evaluate any possible issues.

    At Toys “R” Us, Inc., the safety and security of our customers and our employees is, and always has been, our highest priority. As a retailer that welcomes millions of kids and families into our stores across the country each year, we take our responsibility to create only the safest shopping environment very seriously. While we respect citizens’ rights to carry firearms in public areas according to certain state laws, our company policy prohibits customers from doing so in any of our stores out of an abundance of caution for the safety and protection of the children and families shopping with us.

    Sincerely,

    Nathan Pavlish
    “R” Us Guest Relations
    Toys-R-Us has been anti-gun for as long as I can remember. Became aware of their position back when my kids were in preschool, day care. They have children of their own now in high school - nothing new here. BTW - I haven't been back since and always found what I wanted for less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Toys-R-Us has been anti-gun for as long as I can remember. Became aware of their position back when my kids were in preschool, day care. They have children of their own now in high school - nothing new here. BTW - I haven't been back since and always found what I wanted for less.
    I have a letter date back in 2008 that said to the contrary. They have since changed their position.

    http://forum.nwcdl.org/index.php?act...a=view;down=38


    The spring of 2009 I bought a large pool from them. It was near closing and I was standing in line with my tag when a small child says in a loud voice "mommie, I want a gun like his" mom looks at him and at me, then my hip and ushers him to another line. When my turn came to the cashier the clerk looked at the 1911 and said cool, then asked me if I needed a extended warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Toys-R-Us has been anti-gun for as long as I can remember. Became aware of their position back when my kids were in preschool, day care. They have children of their own now in high school - nothing new here. BTW - I haven't been back since and always found what I wanted for less.
    Quote Originally Posted by M1Gunr View Post
    I have a letter date back in 2008 that said to the contrary. They have since changed their position.

    http://forum.nwcdl.org/index.php?act...a=view;down=38


    The spring of 2009 I bought a large pool from them. It was near closing and I was standing in line with my tag when a small child says in a loud voice "mommie, I want a gun like his" mom looks at him and at me, then my hip and ushers him to another line. When my turn came to the cashier the clerk looked at the 1911 and said cool, then asked me if I needed a extended warranty.
    Interesting - so they have reverted to earlier form. Was not aware of the temporary(?) pro stance. Previously, I had personally been asked to leave their place of business locally.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

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