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    OC in pontiac /PPD at it again

    I was asked to leave sprint store in Waterford been there countless times before. Been a customer for 5 yrs at this store i told them i would take my business elsewhere. My wife's cousin was getting a new phone i was going to but not now. This employee then apologizes to my wife for kicking me out of store and hopes I'm not mad. His rationale was there's a rehab place next door and he didn't want one of them to come in and take my gun.Then i left there went to grocery store mom and pop store very nice people but she said you cant carry your gun like that in Michigan i repeated 3 times its legal gave here a tri-fold. But of course who did she call but the PPD which stated he cant carry a gun in the open does he have a open carry permit. Then stated i had to show my cpl to store owner i refused due to personal info the owner agreed with me.PPD said I was wrong and i have to show id and i cant oc without a permit . They have left me alone for about 2 or 3months. They have a nice grass area for lunch between the police headquarters and city hall. Maybe in May or june.
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    Quote Originally Posted by army74 View Post
    I was asked to leave sprint store in Waterford been there countless times before. Been a customer for 5 yrs at this store i told them i would take my business elsewhere. My wife's cousin was getting a new phone i was going to but not now. This employee then apologizes to my wife for kicking me out of store and hopes I'm not mad. His rationale was there's a rehab place next door and he didn't want one of them to come in and take my gun.Then i left there went to grocery store mom and pop store very nice people but she said you cant carry your gun like that in Michigan i repeated 3 times its legal gave here a tri-fold. But of course who did she call but the PPD which stated he cant carry a gun in the open does he have a open carry permit. Then stated i had to show my cpl to store owner i refused due to personal info the owner agreed with me.PPD said I was wrong and i have to show id and i cant oc without a permit . They have left me alone for about 2 or 3months. They have a nice grass area for lunch between the police headquarters and city hall. Maybe in May or june.
    Take in the MSP bulletins and ask her who she believes MSP or PPD.
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    that is totally f-ed.

    when are they supposed to be taken over by the sheriff department?

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    venator i did that she said thats what PPD said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricianLU58 View Post
    that is totally f-ed.

    when are they supposed to be taken over by the sheriff department?
    i don't think the sheriff is taking over now. thought I read they decided against it.

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    That's effin hilarious, sad, but hilarious! You should go to the PPD and tell them you want to apply for an "open carry permit" and watch them dance around trying to find the application lol!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by army74 View Post
    venator i did that she said thats what PPD said.
    FOIA the call between the women and the PPD and then ask for an OC permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeMarine View Post
    "open carry permit"
    Here ya' go http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(zx3...ame=mcl-28-422

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    What if the PPD told her that you needed a CPL in order to OC there because they sold alcohol (assuming they sell alcohol)?

    What the police said and what she heard may be two very different things.

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    While Bronson has a good point, that registration is a licensing process to openly carry, I do agree that it would be hilarious to call them and ask about the process for obtaining the required open carry permit. If they say the Sheriff's department, the response would be "but they don't issue those, your department is the only one that requires them. Also, we both know they aren't required because of preemption, but I'd like to follow your departments rules so I don't get bothered anymore"
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    I understand where bronson is coming from. But it is extremely possible that the PPD has said this. There are some good officers here who now its legal and theres no OC permit.Ive been hassled before by this dept. and the chief is no better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeMarine View Post
    That's effin hilarious, sad, but hilarious! You should go to the PPD and tell them you want to apply for an "open carry permit" and watch them dance around trying to find the application lol!!
    Hahaha, bring the recorder.

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    Let's talk to MasterControl and see if he can organize something...

    I'm down with it.
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    i would be interested in a picnic or other such event, as well
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    OC picnic in june

    I will tlk with Mastercontrol and see what we can work out far as a OC picnic at the same site but ill try to get the pavillion

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    Are you talking about hawthorne, or somewhere else?

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    I would be down also. Been thinking about doing something like this for a while now!

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    I'm thinking about Hawthorne due to the fact of the children's play area if any1 wants to bring kids or even go fishing since there is a boat dock. Ill even invite my friend the county commissioner. What is everyone's take on inviting the Chief of police and mayor and council members.

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    picnic

    Stainless we wont have that problem ill be bringing a gas grill with me so that wont be a problem.Just would need a cook is all.

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    Hawthorne is fine with me, it was nice the last time, and I'm familiar with the area. If some of you don't know quite where it is, I'll meet you nearby, and you can follow me in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Hawthorne is fine with me, it was nice the last time, and I'm familiar with the area. If some of you don't know quite where it is, I'll meet you nearby, and you can follow me in.
    That's not a bad area, I thought you might be talking oakland park or perry park. Now those places are what I consider a two gun minimum (faster to change guns then reload)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vmaxx View Post
    That's not a bad area, I thought you might be talking oakland park or perry park. Now those places are what I consider a two gun minimum (faster to change guns then reload)
    yep, and my video games on my Xbox confirms that too!
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    Pontiac Picnic Pontiac Picnic Pontiac Picnic
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    Pontiac Picnic Pontiac Picnic Pontiac Picnic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Let me know when and i am there. or I will coordinate it if it takes too long.

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    I went to the last pontiac picnic in august that was fun...if im in town again id be down.
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    Im thinking about June 4 th or june 11th for the picnic looking for feedback to see whats good for everyone i just need to pinpoint the date and give it to mastercontrol.Thanks for the input everyone

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