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Last edited by RenkaiWulf; 03-03-2011 at 04:48 PM.
I would caution against carrying a .22 as a self defense pistol. You would have to shoot your asailant likely multiple times in the face/head area to be quickly effective. Many people can't do that, and it just kinda looks bad on you when the media and prosecutors point at you and say, "he unloaded half a clip in the poor guys (read, street ghetto rats) face.
Last edited by stainless1911; 03-03-2011 at 12:19 PM.
yea i understand that but this would more than liking be used mostly for plinking, small game and just all around functional pistol plus i dont have much $ to spend
There is no magic bullet size. Many folks have "he unloaded half a clip in the poor guys (read, street ghetto rats) face" with calibers much larger than the .22... and that often didn't stop the bad guy either.
There are much more important considerations when choosing a gun than just how big the bullet is.
Truth is... no matter what size the bullet is having a gun that shoots bullets is what is best.
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Chiappa 1911-22 Semi-Auto .22 LR
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I agree bikenut, a well placed shot with a .22 will do the trick. A bigger caliber does tend to shift the odds in your favor.
A box of 9mm should cost about 30$/100, if you reload, then your costs could come down to less than 5$/100.
As always the best defense caliber is....
Whatever caliber you can control with confidence to stop the threat.
As for the .22 being a defense round...just ask these guys what they think...
BRADY-paralyzed for life
REAGAN- almost killed/seriously wounded
KENNEDY-DEAD...guess you can't ask him.
I think they would have an opinion on the effectiveness of a .22.
I forgot what Brady was shot with, but IIRC Regan was hit with a .38, and JFK was hit with a hunting round, wasn't it a .30 caliber?
Last edited by stainless1911; 03-03-2011 at 01:58 PM.
Nope...all were done with .22LR...
As posted, most hit men preferred .22, small, clean, and quiet.
After the advent of ballistics technology began developing in the late 1890's-early 1900's; some even went to .45cal shot out of a .410 smooth bore to prevent ballistic tracing.
maybe you could include .22WMR as a possibility. it is a great round. it is far more functional for self defense, and it is a great plinking round.
i would al least consider it.
Kennedy was a .22LR? I didn't know that would make his neck explode like that.
When I checked Wiki, it lead me to this round. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5x52m...licher-Carcano
Last edited by stainless1911; 03-03-2011 at 02:34 PM.
Last edited by Venator; 03-03-2011 at 02:46 PM.
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i got my pistol it is a Ruger p89 9mm
here is a picture gun,case,3-15 round mags and a lock for the box
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Can't wait to get the P22 out of layaway. 22s are a great little round.
anyone know if there is any open carry get together's near lake orion sometime soon , i dont have any ammo for it yet but i figure i can get used to carrying it
Last edited by RenkaiWulf; 03-03-2011 at 05:06 PM.
Don't carry an empty gun! This isn't Kalifornia. Besides, its not safe. A box of .22s should be 2.50$ go get some pop cans and return them.
its a 9mm not a .22 cal i spent on the gun none for ammo for a bit
Gotcha. I still wouldn't carry it empty.
i understand your feeling i ment mostly around the house and yard to get used to it gotta start somewhere
by the time some get together happens i should have ammo
Last edited by RenkaiWulf; 03-03-2011 at 05:56 PM.
For 9mm I carry Hornady Critical Defense (About $1/round) 115 grain JHP with Polymer HallowPoint insert.
I also carry SPEER GoldDot 146 r. Hollow Point. (About $.50/round)
I alternate rounds in my magazine back and forth between these two. Every bullet has a weakness. It's my hope if one of these bullets (which I have researched and I am confident will perform well) encounters a weakness, the bullet that is right behind it (which is different) will not have the same weakness.
Do your own research, but I highly recommend these two rounds.
Might want to consider the Gold Dot 124 9mm +P Also..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcwaMwB13Gg
I'm considering a switch from the 147 gr. GoldDot to the 124 gr. GoldDot. Anyone have any thoughts about this? I'm liking the 124 because:
1. More Torque (Energy).
2. Less Penetration. (13.5 versus 16.5)
3. Better expansion.
Last edited by TheQ; 03-03-2011 at 06:18 PM.
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