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    Buying a Pistol

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    I would caution against carrying a .22 as a self defense pistol. You would have to shoot your asailant likely multiple times in the face/head area to be quickly effective. Many people can't do that, and it just kinda looks bad on you when the media and prosecutors point at you and say, "he unloaded half a clip in the poor guys (read, street ghetto rats) face.
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    yea i understand that but this would more than liking be used mostly for plinking, small game and just all around functional pistol plus i dont have much $ to spend

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    I would caution against carrying a .22 as a self defense pistol. You would have to shoot your asailant likely multiple times in the face/head area to be quickly effective. Many people can't do that, and it just kinda looks bad on you when the media and prosecutors point at you and say, "he unloaded half a clip in the poor guys (read, street ghetto rats) face.
    The never ending caliber wars thing is my pet peeve............

    There is no magic bullet size. Many folks have "he unloaded half a clip in the poor guys (read, street ghetto rats) face" with calibers much larger than the .22... and that often didn't stop the bad guy either.

    There are much more important considerations when choosing a gun than just how big the bullet is.

    Truth is... no matter what size the bullet is having a gun that shoots bullets is what is best.
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    The never ending caliber wars thing is my pet peeve............

    There is no magic bullet size. Many folks have "he unloaded half a clip in the poor guys (read, street ghetto rats) face" with calibers much larger than the .22... and that often didn't stop the bad guy either.

    There are much more important considerations when choosing a gun than just how big the bullet is.

    Truth is... no matter what size the bullet is having a gun that shoots bullets is what is best.
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    Most professional hit men prefer a 22 to get the job done. Less mess!

    also beats swatting at the bad guy with my purse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    The never ending caliber wars thing is my pet peeve............

    There is no magic bullet size. Many folks have "he unloaded half a clip in the poor guys (read, street ghetto rats) face" with calibers much larger than the .22... and that often didn't stop the bad guy either.

    There are much more important considerations when choosing a gun than just how big the bullet is.

    Truth is... no matter what size the bullet is having a gun that shoots bullets is what is best.
    The never ending caliber wars thing is my pet peeve, too. Just use what you want knowing the limitations of the particular round.
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    I agree bikenut, a well placed shot with a .22 will do the trick. A bigger caliber does tend to shift the odds in your favor.

    A box of 9mm should cost about 30$/100, if you reload, then your costs could come down to less than 5$/100.

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    As always the best defense caliber is....
    Whatever caliber you can control with confidence to stop the threat.

    As for the .22 being a defense round...just ask these guys what they think...

    BRADY-paralyzed for life
    REAGAN- almost killed/seriously wounded
    KENNEDY-DEAD...guess you can't ask him.

    I think they would have an opinion on the effectiveness of a .22.

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    I forgot what Brady was shot with, but IIRC Regan was hit with a .38, and JFK was hit with a hunting round, wasn't it a .30 caliber?
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    Nope...all were done with .22LR...

    As posted, most hit men preferred .22, small, clean, and quiet.

    After the advent of ballistics technology began developing in the late 1890's-early 1900's; some even went to .45cal shot out of a .410 smooth bore to prevent ballistic tracing.

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    maybe you could include .22WMR as a possibility. it is a great round. it is far more functional for self defense, and it is a great plinking round.

    i would al least consider it.

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    Kennedy was a .22LR? I didn't know that would make his neck explode like that.

    When I checked Wiki, it lead me to this round. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5x52m...licher-Carcano
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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Kennedy was a .22LR? I didn't know that would make his neck explode like that.

    When I checked Wiki, it lead me to this round. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5x52m...licher-Carcano
    Robert Kennedy. .22 Iver Johnson. I have the exact model gun with just a few thousands difference in serial number. Not intentional just a coincidence. An Iver Johnson pistol was used to kill McKinley too but it was a .32.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Kennedy was a .22LR? I didn't know that would make his neck explode like that.

    When I checked Wiki, it lead me to this round. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5x52m...licher-Carcano
    Yes, with Reagan; they were hollow points. That's where the major drama media kept telling everyone he was shot with "exploding" bullets! As usual, dumb a$$ media can't get the facts straight. They were a standard load LR hollow point. Through the armpit, shattered off a rib and a small piece is what nearly made it to his heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenkaiWulf View Post
    ok so today i went and sold my old rifle (dont use much) and was planning on buying a handgun the smith & wesson 22a to be exact so i go to get a permit to buy a pistol and im told i cant buy it from a dealer because im under 21 years old so i didnt bother to get the permit and of course i was very disappointed. I was wondering if there was anyone in the lake orion area that i could buy a pistol off instead. it would be greatly appreciated
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    Hope you get the buying issues resolved. The 22A is a great casual shooting type handgun... I have one, and really enjoy it.

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    Got my pistol >.<

    i got my pistol it is a Ruger p89 9mm
    here is a picture gun,case,3-15 round mags and a lock for the box


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    Quote Originally Posted by RenkaiWulf View Post
    i got my pistol it is a Ruger p89 9mm
    here is a picture gun,case,3-15 round mags and a lock for the box


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    you apparently did!
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    SWEET!

    Can't wait to get the P22 out of layaway. 22s are a great little round.

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    anyone know if there is any open carry get together's near lake orion sometime soon , i dont have any ammo for it yet but i figure i can get used to carrying it
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    Don't carry an empty gun! This isn't Kalifornia. Besides, its not safe. A box of .22s should be 2.50$ go get some pop cans and return them.

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    its a 9mm not a .22 cal i spent on the gun none for ammo for a bit

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    Gotcha. I still wouldn't carry it empty.

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    i understand your feeling i ment mostly around the house and yard to get used to it gotta start somewhere
    by the time some get together happens i should have ammo
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    For 9mm I carry Hornady Critical Defense (About $1/round) 115 grain JHP with Polymer HallowPoint insert.

    I also carry SPEER GoldDot 146 r. Hollow Point. (About $.50/round)

    I alternate rounds in my magazine back and forth between these two. Every bullet has a weakness. It's my hope if one of these bullets (which I have researched and I am confident will perform well) encounters a weakness, the bullet that is right behind it (which is different) will not have the same weakness.

    Do your own research, but I highly recommend these two rounds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD6Re_Gwcwc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5aGOjyV6CU

    Might want to consider the Gold Dot 124 9mm +P Also..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcwaMwB13Gg

    I'm considering a switch from the 147 gr. GoldDot to the 124 gr. GoldDot. Anyone have any thoughts about this? I'm liking the 124 because:

    1. More Torque (Energy).
    2. Less Penetration. (13.5 versus 16.5)
    3. Better expansion.
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