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    Wyoming's New Constitutional Carry Law

    I have attached a pdf file of the law as it reads with the changes made by the recently passed bill. The changes take effect on July 1, 2011.

    Deletions are in blue strikethrough
    Additions are in red underline

    Carry Laws Wyo.pdf
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    Congratulations, neighbors!

    Wish us luck here in Nevada.

    We have two similar bills - one in our senate and one in our assembly! (SB-176 and AB-231)

    Again, congrats! Its a wonderful thing!

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    After reading that all i am seeing is they took the requirement for you to have the permit on you.. Nothing there says that you dont need a permit. It also looks like they took away the ability for out of state permits to be accepted there

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckinchico View Post
    After reading that all i am seeing is they took the requirement for you to have the permit on you.. Nothing there says that you dont need a permit. It also looks like they took away the ability for out of state permits to be accepted there
    The I read it is that they still honor out of state permits and a non resident can use constitutional carry without a permit also.

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    Can quote where you see this??? Because i m not seeing it worded like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckinchico View Post
    After reading that all i am seeing is they took the requirement for you to have the permit on you.. Nothing there says that you dont need a permit. It also looks like they took away the ability for out of state permits to be accepted there

    Quote Originally Posted by 9026543 View Post
    The I read it is that they still honor out of state permits and a non resident can use constitutional carry without a permit also.

    (a)(iii) allows permits from other states if that other states honors the WY permit.

    (b)(i) establishes the residency restriction.

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    That sound closer to what i was reading ill bite on that one .

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    (a)(ii) says that you can carry concealed with a permit.
    (a)(iv), which is new, says that you can carry concealed without a permit if you meet all of the requirements to get a permit (except that you're not required to "demonstrate familiarity" with a firearm.)

    One of the requirements for getting a permit, (b)(i), is that you have been a Wyoming resident for 6 months. That means that non-residents can't carry concealed without a permit.

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    Think of it this way, fellas...

    Yes, we know this is not perfect. It's an improvement, but we don't intend to leave it here.

    In the meantime, if you keep your nose clean and don't make trouble, nobody is going to frisk you for a gun anywhere in Wyoming that I know of. Therefore, it is moot whether you are a "resident" or not.

    Unless you have to draw and fire, a really remote possibility most places here, nobody will ever know -or more important, CARE - if you cc, or have some damned piece of paper giving you "permission."

    Personally, I carry openly. I'm proud of it and have no wish to hide it.
    I will not knowingly initiate force. I am a self owner.

    Let the record show that I did not consent to be governed. I did not consent to any constitution. I did not consent to any president. I did not consent to any law except the natural law of "mala en se." I did not consent to the police. Nor any tax. Nor any prohibition of anything. Nor any regulation or licensing of any kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Every state that gets closer to AK is a good thing.
    I have said time and time again- "be careful of what you wish for". Alaska is far from perfect.
    http://youtu.be/swV_eOrAp9Y

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    Quote Originally Posted by AB View Post
    I have said time and time again- "be careful of what you wish for". Alaska is far from perfect.
    http://youtu.be/swV_eOrAp9Y
    Yep, we finally agree on something they no longer have Sara Palin as Governor and are not perfect.

    if you get stopped in WY and they run your vehicle plates they know you have a CCP before they walk up to the car even if you don't tell them they already know anybody they run they know and if they want to take em for officer safety no problem.

    nothing wrong with giving the officer your permit and telling him you are armed unless you look like a drug runner or a shyster "businessman" with an office in a strip mall and a agenda that is not quite above the boards

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    Quote Originally Posted by MamaLiberty View Post
    Think of it this way, fellas...

    Yes, we know this is not perfect. It's an improvement, but we don't intend to leave it here.

    In the meantime, if you keep your nose clean and don't make trouble, nobody is going to frisk you for a gun anywhere in Wyoming that I know of. Therefore, it is moot whether you are a "resident" or not.

    Unless you have to draw and fire, a really remote possibility most places here, nobody will ever know -or more important, CARE - if you cc, or have some damned piece of paper giving you "permission."

    Personally, I carry openly. I'm proud of it and have no wish to hide it.

    and you openly advocate and tell others to violate wyoming laws.

    does that not place your integrity into question as a minimum?

    one can not tell others to break the law and still take the high road.

    I beg to differ if you have to shoot somebody the law and the lawyers will care if you are legal or if you are a criminal breaking the law as if you are not legally carrying then you are a criminal and no better than the thug you shot.

    but then again living in the sticks with around 3K population where fire fighters get drunk at the fire station then driving a tanker truck drunk and kill a female junior fire fighter what else can you expect from a California transplant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Therefore, it is not Constitutional carry.
    So it appears to me the following statement is not correct:
    Alaska, Arizona, Vermont and Wyoming: Any law-abiding citizen of the United States (not otherwise prohibited from possessing firearms) may carry concealed without a CCW permit. For reciprocity purposes, Alaska and Arizona do have "shall issue" permit systems in place for those desiring a permit. Arizona does specify "above 21" for Concealed Carry.


    Would the following statement be correct?
    Effective July 1, 2011, Wyoming law specifies residents (with at least six months residency) do not need a permit to carry concealed IF they are 21 years of age and otherwise meet the requirements to obtain a CCW permit.

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    Mjolnir, please do jump through any hoops and kiss whatever fannies you wish. The only LAW that is truly relevant is that we do not use our guns - or anything else - to harm innocent people. Obey that law, and all the rest take care of themselves. Except for the crap put out by the "powers that be" which make ordinary, non aggressive behavior somehow a "crime."

    I've carried a gun now for many years. I've never needed to draw one. I woke Friday morning absolutely no different a person, with no different intents or abilities because the Wyoming statute took affect at midnight.

    Neither did you.
    I will not knowingly initiate force. I am a self owner.

    Let the record show that I did not consent to be governed. I did not consent to any constitution. I did not consent to any president. I did not consent to any law except the natural law of "mala en se." I did not consent to the police. Nor any tax. Nor any prohibition of anything. Nor any regulation or licensing of any kind.

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    Gosh...could they make the list of prohibited places longer?

    What's this about not being armed while engaged in the political process? Ridiculous!

    If it's "constitutional carry", why can't a rational adult carry on university grounds while attending classes? That's not very "constitutional".

    I am NOT impressed.
    Does anyone here actually believe that the Founders were sitting around in John Adams' tavern UNARMED because they believed a bar should be a gun free zone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 230therapy View Post
    That's not very "constitutional".

    I am NOT impressed.
    Neither are some of us. I certainly would call the current situation an improvement, but it can't be called "constitutional carry" by any means.
    I will not knowingly initiate force. I am a self owner.

    Let the record show that I did not consent to be governed. I did not consent to any constitution. I did not consent to any president. I did not consent to any law except the natural law of "mala en se." I did not consent to the police. Nor any tax. Nor any prohibition of anything. Nor any regulation or licensing of any kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 230therapy View Post
    Gosh...could they make the list of prohibited places longer?

    What's this about not being armed while engaged in the political process? Ridiculous!

    If it's "constitutional carry", why can't a rational adult carry on university grounds while attending classes? That's not very "constitutional".

    I am NOT impressed.
    Generally speaking nationwide, our firearms rights eroded over scores, arguably beginning in 1934.

    And you think we'll regain all rights with a single stroke of legislation?

    I most certainly applaud Wyoming for their HUGE step in the right direction. I'll wager heavily the good folks of Wyoming will be back for more progress in their next legislative session.

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    As many judge from the armchair others are in the trench...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AB View Post
    As many judge from the armchair others are in the trench...
    I'm sure the local gun orgs will be able to teach you what "constitutional carry" actually means. Hopefully, they'll get together and lobby for a more correct law.
    Last edited by 230therapy; 07-03-2011 at 10:34 AM.
    Does anyone here actually believe that the Founders were sitting around in John Adams' tavern UNARMED because they believed a bar should be a gun free zone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 230therapy View Post
    I'm sure the local gun orgs will be able to teach you what "constitutional carry" actually means. Hopefully, they'll get together and lobby for a more correct law.
    Do you have a "more correct law" where you reside?

    And: What "local gun org" is recommended by you?
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    congratulations Wyoming. Whatever one may not like about this law, it is an improvement. Most states have some if, and, or buts that makes whatever legislation short of perfect. At least your not in states like N.J. or Illinois, that now have become the shrinking minority.

    The progress of the pro-gun community nationwide has the anti-gun zealots scratching their heads. When I started collecting and shooting guns in the 1960s, the enemies of the second amendment had the upper hand and the best the gun owning public could do is stop anti-gun laws from being even more restrictive, much less getting any laws passed that benefited firearm owners.

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    Is it legal for a non-resident of Wyoming, to Open Carry in Wyoming and more specifically Grand Teton National Park?

    Thank you.

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    Open carry is "legal" for anyone who can "legally" own a gun in Wyoming. The only place where OC is not legal is in Federal Buildings. There are a number of places where OC is probably not a good idea... but that's a complicated subject and very much depends on where you are. I've never been to Teton, so I don't know what the attitude of the people or "rangers" there might be. I hope someone who has been there can tell you.

    What is "legal" is not always wise... what is wise is not always "legal." They are two different things. Good luck.
    I will not knowingly initiate force. I am a self owner.

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    If anyone has any problem...

    If anyone has any problem from the "authorities" with legal carry in Wyoming contact WyGO - http://wyominggunowners.org/contact/

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