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    Year Open Carry established?

    I am taking criminal justice courses, and for one of them I selected Open Carry Pro's and Con's as a debate in regards to crime spikes and flat-lines resulted by open carry. I am having trouble finding the years in which Arizona and Ohio established Open Carry. Does anybody know? Information would be greatly appreciated.

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    You'd be better off posting in those state subforums. However, it is very possible that open carry was never against the law, like here in NC. Therefore, in NC, Open Carry was never "established."
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    Yep, those State subforums would be the best place to ask.

    Here in Alabama, OC has always been lawful.

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    I'm by far an expert in any law. In Ohio there are no laws on the books that regulates an unconcealed weapon so Ohio did not establish open carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N605TW View Post
    I'm by far an expert in any law. In Ohio there are no laws on the books that regulates an unconcealed weapon so Ohio did not establish open carry.
    Pretty bold claim. I'm afraid I'll have to see some credentials

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    Quote Originally Posted by N605TW View Post
    I'm by far an expert in any law. In Ohio there are no laws on the books that regulates an unconcealed weapon so Ohio did not establish open carry.
    What does that mean? In detail, please!
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotorhead View Post
    Pretty bold claim. I'm afraid I'll have to see some credentials
    I hear you and are awaiting upon the same.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    Open Carry was established in the US in 1776.

    It was officially codified into US law on June 21, 1788, when the US Constitution was ratified.

    It was only that some states decided at later dates (like IL, MD, NJ, NY, etc) that they had the right (which they do not) to violate the US Constitution and enact illegal, immoral, and in EVERY CASE, racist laws to prevent the lawful carry of defensive firearms by law-abiding citizens...

    The re-establishment of the Fundamental Human Right to self-defense on a nation-wide level will be a longer and harder battle than the Civil Rights movement was, because the very people who are hurt most by this egregious violation of civil rights (restrictions on lawful OC) are the ones who have been most effectively brainwashed to see this Fundamental Human Right as something that is harmful and wrong.

    But we are working on that...

    Education, personal responsibility, and love of family and community are our watchwords...


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    Quote Originally Posted by N605TW View Post
    I'm by far an expert in any law.
    I lol'ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holyburd View Post
    I am taking criminal justice courses, and for one of them I selected Open Carry Pro's and Con's as a debate in regards to crime spikes and flat-lines resulted by open carry.

    If you want to REALLY get a discussion started in a CJ classroom, present a report on the correlation between the size of LEAs and crime. Do the research--it is shocking...

    Basically, you will find that in the US, more cops = more crime, ESPECIALLY in states and municipalities with very restrictive gun laws like MD, NY, IL, and DC...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    Basically, you will find that in the US, more cops = more crime
    Yup.

    And in this instance mechanisms can be described to argue the correlative relationship to be as well a causal one.

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    Hit and run?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sultan62 View Post
    Hit and run?

    More like DUI, DIP, murder, extortion, smuggling, criminal conspiracy, taking kickbacks, falsifying evidence, theft, child porn, etc. etc. etc...

    And THAT is just in Maryland in the last 12 months...

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...-MD-government

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...rry-guns-in-MD...
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    Quote Originally Posted by N605TW View Post
    I'm by far an expert in any law. In Ohio there are no laws on the books that regulates an unconcealed weapon so Ohio did not establish open carry.
    Obviously it was a type-o. I originally meant to say "I'm by far not an expert in any law" I will run to and hide in my bunker now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N605TW View Post
    Obviously it was a type-o. I originally meant to say "I'm by far not an expert in any law" I will run to and hide in my bunker now.
    Yes, it would appear that your expertise in the law is only exceeded by your expertise in the use of the English language...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
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    Quote Originally Posted by N605TW View Post
    Obviously it was a type-o. I originally meant to say "I'm by far not an expert in any law" I will run to and hide in my bunker now.
    Oddly, I read what you meant and not what you typed. Probably because my mind was ready to see a disclaimer, not bragging.

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    As it turns out, open carry was established in the 12th Century, in China, along with firearms themselves.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    As it turns out, open carry was established in the 12th Century, in China, along with firearms themselves.
    Too bad it didn't last, now look at the poor slobs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by N605TW View Post
    Obviously it was a type-o. I originally meant to say "I'm by far not an expert in any law" I will run to and hide in my bunker now.
    heh- I knew what you meant. Mine was a joke which I hoped you would notice by me posting the smiley at the end.

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    Nah - the information wasn't too important for the OP - he has neither posted as suggested nor been back.

    Oh well.
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