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    say goodbye to the pontiac police.

    pontiac police voted to dissolve their union.

    http://theoaklandpress.com/articles/...e029430388.txt

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    Good riddance! They harassed and attempted to intimidate law abiding citizens who were simply exercising their 2A rights. The OC Sheriff will be much better at following state law.

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    Another one bites the dust. Clarkston went down for highway robberies, Pontiac for being thugs, HA! G'bye. OCSD id soooo much more capable.

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    Ppd

    Im glad the residents and taxpayers can put this behind us. The council members are crying now about this. PPD has some great police officers and some bad ones it will be better for everyone involved.

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    can't say enough good about oakland county sheriff's dept deputies..every encounter has been positive and professional and educated and accepting of OC. hate to see them 'stuck' in pontiac but that's part of the job.

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    I think they would be proud to help straighten it up.

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    They voted for it but as far as I know there is a stipulation that the OCSD must "absorb" the PPD officers or its a no go even though they voted yes. At least that's what one of the brass of the PPD said when all this started a couple of months ago.

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    Rasher there was only 38 patrolman anyway.They the PPD officers would have to file for a job there personell file comes into play.How many suspensions what for and how long

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasher View Post
    They voted for it but as far as I know there is a stipulation that the OCSD must "absorb" the PPD officers or its a no go even though they voted yes. At least that's what one of the brass of the PPD said when all this started a couple of months ago.
    That makes sense. I have a hard time imagining police voting to end their jobs.

    By the way, I'm still not sure I appreciate the "totality of circumstance" here.

    Anybody care to get me up to speed? Thanks.

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    Pontiac is a broken down $#!+ hole of a town. The roads and businesses are falling apart, there are gangs, drugs ***** and so on, no work, we call it little Detroit. The government is another story.

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    I heard the assistant chief say(months ago) that for this to go thru, OCSD would have to commit to take at least 3/4's of the PPD force for it to be OK'd, he also let it slip that all moneys they would have gotten from the state/feds now would go to the ocsd, then he tried to back peddle real fast and change the subject. The SD seems to be doing way better money wise, and they COULD get more $$$$ for every ppd person they take, if there is any truth to this its a no brain-er to me.

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    i hope that they do not keep the officers with extensive disciplinary records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricianLU58 View Post
    i hope that they do not keep the officers with extensive disciplinary records.
    That could be a issue, but I would also like to believe the OCSD, holds it people to a higher standard than what Pontiac did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricianLU58 View Post
    i hope that they do not keep the officers with extensive disciplinary records.
    Since a union is no longer involved(?) I would suspect selection would be made based on performance rather than seniority...
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    It seems to me, that just because the union is gone, doesn't mean the department will go away. I wouldn't say good bye to them just yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gay Al View Post
    It seems to me, that just because the union is gone, doesn't mean the department will go away. I wouldn't say good bye to them just yet.

    If I understood the Channel 7's report, the police chief was fired, and the department will shutdown at the end of April 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onnie View Post
    If I understood the Channel 7's report, the police chief was fired, and the department will shutdown at the end of April 2011.

    I was not paying much attention, i was trying to sleep but I think thats what they said
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    I reckon we'll find out come April.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onnie View Post
    If I understood the Channel 7's report, the police chief was fired, and the department will shutdown at the end of April 2011.

    I was not paying much attention, i was trying to sleep but I think thats what they said
    2 nights ago
    Yes thats what they said.

    Q, that union is still there, and will be untill the last officer punches out for the last time.

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    Thumbs up May PPD fade away into the dust of time.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuN-tFvgRc0&NR=1

    The above depicts the average PPD member's understanding of the law in general, let alone the law as it relates to Open Carry in my honest opinion. I hope the people of PONTICRACK are served far better by the OCSD, (it's a pretty low bar at this point).

    This is a example of their foolishness

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9f3u...4D96D9B8136BA9

    Last edited by Glock9mmOldStyle; 03-15-2011 at 11:06 PM. Reason: clarity edit

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