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    NEED HELP NOW! San Francisco!

    Quote Originally Posted by wildhawker View Post

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    On behalf of the Calguns Foundation, I did reach out to and speak at length with the subject person this morning. I respectfully request that no additional details be published until we and counsel have an opportunity to review all of the facts; depending on the path forward, it may take some time before more information can/should be released. Understanding that this is of great interest to our gun advocate community, please also consider that more discussion at this time is counterproductive to the process. Thanks for your consideration and respect for the integrity of the issue before us.

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    A citizen may not be required to offer a ―good and substantial reason-- why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.

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    Thanks I'll send it along now


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    Whatever they do, don't get a flat rate attorney.

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    get a hold of Jason Davis

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    I've been in contact with this person as well.

    I'm going to speak with him over the phone when I'm done with my tasks for the day.

    From what I've heard, they are trying to railroad this guy big time.

    Sounds like 12031, plus 2 charges for "contempt of cop".

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    wildhawker

    On behalf of the Calguns Foundation, I did reach out to and speak at length with the subject person this morning. I respectfully request that no additional details be published until we and counsel have an opportunity to review all of the facts; depending on the path forward, it may take some time before more information can/should be released. Understanding that this is of great interest to our gun advocate community, please also consider that more discussion at this time is counterproductive to the process. Thanks for your consideration and respect for the integrity of the issue before us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hgreen View Post
    Whatever they do, don't get a flat rate attorney.
    Know any lawyers in San Fran?


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    If CalGuns Foundation won't help, they will point you in the right direction.
    A citizen may not be required to offer a ―good and substantial reason-- why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.

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    wildhawker

    On behalf of the Calguns Foundation, I did reach out to and speak at length with the subject person this morning. I respectfully request that no additional details be published until we and counsel have an opportunity to review all of the facts; depending on the path forward, it may take some time before more information can/should be released. Understanding that this is of great interest to our gun advocate community, please also consider that more discussion at this time is counterproductive to the process. Thanks for your consideration and respect for the integrity of the issue before us.

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    Can I get a PM of details?

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    Details will have to wait. Not my story to tell.


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    Donald Kilmer is the CGF attorney in the bay area. Hope the UOCer has $5,000-$50,000 set aside. We've been through this before. There is NO need for individuals to put themselves at risk. The Theseus example didn't sink in I guess. I hope this is a false arrest for 12031. If it 626.9 or 12025 get ready for a wild ride. Where is RCOC and their thousands of $$$$$$ for attorneys? They've been pushing this angle...

    Here is the Bat phone info...http://www.dklawoffice.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post
    Donald Kilmer is the CGF attorney in the bay area. Hope the UOCer has $5,000-$50,000 set aside. We've been through this before. There is NO need for individuals to put themselves at risk. The Theseus example didn't sink in I guess. I hope this is a false arrest for 12031. If it 626.9 or 12025 get ready for a wild ride. Where is RCOC and their thousands of $$$$$$ for attornys?
    PM sent.

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    PMs sent to some big guns / 'the right people' types...

    I take it the individual was released after booking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post
    I take it the individual was released after booking?
    Yes, released on his own recognizance.

    Property has been returned except the firearm. The firearm isn't considered evidence; they said he could get it back after submitting a LEGR.

    I told him to call Gene and Don first thing tomorrow. It seems his appearance date is also tomorrow(!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    It seems his appearance date is also tomorrow(!).
    So when did this happen? 6 weeks ago? He should appear, get a public defender, plead not guilty and dump the pd later if needed...heck does he even know if the DA actually filed this weak case?

    Dates on tickets don't mean anything if the DA didn't file.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post
    So when did this happen? 6 weeks ago? He should appear, get a public defender, plead not guilty and dump the pd later if needed...heck does he even know if the DA actually filed this weak case?

    Dates on tickets don't mean anything if the DA didn't file.
    Apparently it happened on Friday. He is unaware whether the DA has actually filed anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    Apparently it happened on Friday. He is unaware whether the DA has actually filed anything.
    I've never heard of a notice to appear in 7 calender days but maybe they are making an exception for him. So this is in criminal court and not traffic court for the VC section only?

    Sounds like someone wrote the wrong court date on the ticket. I've done that before. Guess he'll find out tomorrow.

    Got to hit the sack now. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...I've got court tomorrow too, but I get paid for my appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post
    I've never heard of a notice to appear in 7 calender days but maybe they are making an exception for him. So this is in criminal court and not traffic court for the VC section only?
    I didn't ask that; I should have. I assume it's criminal court since the other codes were on the notice.

    I'm wondering if they made an exception because he is an out of state visitor. Although I would have expected them to delay as long as possible just to make his life hell.

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    All charges were dropped (as they should have been).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    All charges were dropped (as they should have been).
    Well that was easy.

    Of course the arrest was still illegal, but that's a big claim to show in court. It would have to be made on Constitutional grounds and challenge the validity of (e) directly.
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    WOW what good news!! Property returned?




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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanburbridge View Post
    WOW what good news!! Property returned?
    I'm not clear on this. Maybe bigtoe knows for sure?

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