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    Angry so much for "shotspotter" system

    Over an hour ago I heard 9 shots.
    Then, nothing.
    No sirens, no sounds of humans who were upset.
    Just normal night noises. Well, normal minus the shooting.

    Guess this neighborhood isn't high enough crime for that shotspotter system to be
    installed here. I'm sure nobody nearer where it happened cares enough to call police
    to report it. I'd call, but have little idea where it was. I suspect it was in the park;
    sounded over that direction, but not sure.

    And people wonder why I carry... and why I want to move.
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    My condolences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Over an hour ago I heard 9 shots.
    Then, nothing.
    No sirens, no sounds of humans who were upset.
    Just normal night noises. Well, normal minus the shooting.

    Guess this neighborhood isn't high enough crime for that shotspotter system to be
    installed here. I'm sure nobody nearer where it happened cares enough to call police
    to report it. I'd call, but have little idea where it was. I suspect it was in the park;
    sounded over that direction, but not sure.

    And people wonder why I carry... and why I want to move.
    It's not police protocol to investigate "shots fired." There time is better spent harassing citizens legally carrying a handgun for protection. Those are the REAL criminals. That or protesting with hippies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anmut View Post
    It's not police protocol to investigate "shots fired." There time is better spent harassing citizens legally carrying a handgun for protection. Those are the REAL criminals. That or protesting with hippies.
    Do I detect a note of sarcasm there Mr. Armut?

    Some citizen(s) out there know something about the shots fired, but likely do not want to "get involved".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpm84092 View Post
    Do I detect a note of sarcasm there Mr. Armut?

    Some citizen(s) out there know something about the shots fired, but likely do not want to "get involved".
    Yes, that was a heavily laden with sarcasm.

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    But MPD said on their facebook page this will prevent crime. I think you're lying MKEgal.

    /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by anmut View Post
    There time is better spent harassing citizens legally carrying a handgun for protection. Those are the REAL criminals. That or protesting with hippies.
    No, no, no. The new batch of doughnuts just got done at Honey Dip . (heeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaavy sarcasm)
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    You all are mistaken with due respect. The "shotspotter" is just the first wall of defense in an overall package designed to keep you and your loved ones safe.

    Obviously the shots were recorded but the totality of the circumstances did not warrant a publicized response. However I am confident Ninjas were dispatched to investigate none the less.
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    It's just another toy so Barrett and Flynn can present as fighting violence rather than actually doing so. What's the "cost per convicted shooter" effectiveness of this thing? I doubt there has been a single conviction resulting from its use. If the Milwaukee Journal staff weren't Facebook buddies of ol' Jer - who also does nothing to fight violence - maybe this cost would be identified in their "Watchdog" section.
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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

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    \\engage sacasm drive\\

    Doesn't a surveillance society equal a safe society?

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    A few years back a friend watched an Oak Creek cop try to dispatch a rabid raccoon.
    The officer fired 7 shots from his .40....

    My guess would be that something similar to that happened.

    Milwaukee PD didnt install that system to protect us.
    It was installed to protect themselves.
    They now have a clearer better picture of what areas of the City to avoid.

    It also shows how intelligent Flynn thinks his officers really are,because they couldnt figure that out for themselves.

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    Probably one of Bloomberg's goons firing randomly to pad their anti gun stats in their favor. I wouldn't put anything past them.
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    Shotspotter, Another big waste of Tax Payers dollars by Big Brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock34 View Post
    Shotspotter, Another big waste of Tax Payers dollars by Big Brother.
    Yup.

    "Shots fired" doesn't generate revenue like a good old fashioned DUI checkpoint or speed trap. If there was a body, they'd have no choice to get involved. No body or noisy complainant, then no need to interfere with the revenue stream.
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    Usually 911 calls are had about as quickly as a shot spotter is in the large cities. Strangely most news reports state this as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1FASTC4
    "Shots fired" doesn't generate revenue like a good old fashioned DUI checkpoint or speed trap.
    Getting slightly off topic here, but aren't DUI checkpoints illegal in WI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Getting slightly off topic here, but aren't DUI checkpoints illegal in WI?
    All checkpoints are illegal in WI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Getting slightly off topic here, but aren't DUI checkpoints illegal in WI?
    It was a joke


    wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1FASTC4 View Post
    It was a joke


    wow
    Just reading text doesn't always determine seriousness or jokes.
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    I remember moving to the St Louis area and went to pick up a friend to go hang out. Heard gunshots nearby and was like what the crap, is someone shooting a gun? He's like just keep driving, happens all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedom_fighter_of_america View Post
    I remember moving to the St Louis area and went to pick up a friend to go hang out. Heard gunshots nearby and was like what the crap, is someone shooting a gun? He's like just keep driving, happens all the time.
    It's just fireworks, yea just fireworks .

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    So much preventing crime on Water St last night.

    http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/118223339.html
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    This Bender guy sounds like a real enemy of freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock34 View Post
    This Bender guy sounds like a real enemy of freedom.
    I think you mixed up your threads.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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