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    Valley View Mall

    So, who was OC? http://www.wset.com/Global/story.asp?S=14249945

    Also, what is that mall's stance on carrying?

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    Police Search for Suspected Gunman in Valley View Mall
    Did he shoot?

    A police spokeswoman says a report of a man with a gun
    Was it in his hands? or was it in a holster....
    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    Its getting intense: http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/280021

    Apparently its a rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shpoa86 View Post
    Its getting intense: http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/280021

    Apparently its a rifle.
    Thanks for the update.

    Another reason why I do not shop at most malls, they are anti gun, and law abidding citizens are denied to protect themselfs from mad men like this.
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    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    The mall has a strict "No Guns" policy, but I've never run into trouble OCing in the anchor stores which apparently have their own separate policies like JC Penney and maybe Barnes & Noble while staying out of the mall part. I've also never had much issue OCing in the nearby restaurants and other stores not immediately attached. Sure sounds like their "No Guns" policy worked. It's amazing that their "No Violence" policy somehow decided to not work either a year or so back when the young woman was sexually molested in a dressing room in the mall.
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    Valley View Mall in Roanoke to reopen Tuesday after all-night search for armed man

    http://roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/280095

    About 40 city police and state police troopers swept most of the shopping complex, said Roanoke Police Capt. Greg Staples.
    Police received reports of a man toting a long black object resembling a firearm into a lower-level entrance of Macy's
    "No such individual was located," police spokeswoman Aisha Johnson said.
    Be careful what you carry into the mall.
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    It is confirmed to be a "long black object" seen on a security camera.

    My BS meter is pinging.
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    I cant help but to wonder, what would have happened to the person had they found him... It sounded like they were treating this guy as an active shooter rather then someone trespassing.
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    Angry

    It is curious how video of the confirmed "long black object resembling a rifle" has not been released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wylde007 View Post
    It is curious how video of the confirmed "long black object resembling a rifle" has not been released.
    If there was one it might have been something as simple as a curtain rob being returned. Maybe it was an assault curtain rod. :-D

    The only thing that comes to mind is if there is a hobby shop in the mall that he was taking said object to for repair or trade. I gotta think that there wouldn't have been that much of a reaction unless something was confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydude6030 View Post
    If there was one it might have been something as simple as a curtain rob being returned. Maybe it was an assault curtain rod. :-D
    Well, Glock's first products that were sold were curtain rods.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    Well, Glock's first products that were sold were curtain rods.....
    Semi-auto curtain rods?

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    Surveillance pictures have been released. It would be nice to see video instead...hard to tell what it is.

    http://www2.wsls.com/news/2011/mar/1...-gu-ar-907056/

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    In one picture it looks like an uzi and in the other?... A golf umbrella.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wylde007 View Post
    In one picture it looks like an uzi and in the other?... A golf umbrella.
    I vote either umbrella or pool cue

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    I wonder if there are any places in the mall that sell airsoft...it could just be an airsoft rifle, or maybe like you said, an umbrella because of the weather!

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    If it's a rifle it has a puffy forend.
    I vote umbrella.

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    Just thinking about what if they found this guy, threw him to the ground or worse. 40 cops, shutting down the mall... It all seems a bit over kill based on those pics.

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    Unless the pictures are just so poor that I can't determine, it appears that the person in the circle in both pictures is wearing black or dark gloves and a full face cover. Adding that to what may be a rifle (can't tell for sure), if I were a worker there I could see the alarm caused.

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    Looks like a M4 from the picture walking away, you can see the front sight and the muzzle.

    Compare.

    Either way he was OCing a long rifle, I wonder if he had more than a 20 round magazine? But it appears his face is coverd, which is a felony.
    The first picture shows what appears to be a umbrella.
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    Last edited by ocholsteroc; 03-15-2011 at 02:43 PM.
    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocholsteroc View Post
    Looks like a M4 from the picture walking away, you can see the front sight and the muzzle.

    Compare.

    Either way he was OCing a long rifle, I wonder if he had more than a 20 round magazine? But it appears his face is coverd, which is a felony.
    The first picture shows what appears to be a umbrella.
    Forend is puffy like fabric and the end looks more like a cane tip than a flash hider.

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    http://www2.wsls.com/news/2011/mar/1...-gu-ar-907056/

    ROANOKE, VA --
    5:00 p.m.
    Police released a statement saying the person in surveillance video stills has been interviewed, and it has been determined that the object he was carrying was an umbrella, not a rifle.
    Hoplophobes are a pathetically funny and panicky bunch.
    Last edited by Curtis; 03-15-2011 at 05:34 PM.

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    Great. How many cop man-hours do you suppose were expended in this little exercise?

    Several of our members correctly ID'd the item from the grainy online video. Apparently better than the cops could do with raw footage and their video enhancement software.
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    carrying was an umbrella

    lol!!!

    Now was his face coverd? I couldn't tell.
    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    I don't know and I don't care. Everything about it is a non-issue. Throughout the winter months I've seen plenty of people with their faces covered everyday and the sky didn't fall. Why wonder if he was doing something else illegal and/or against mall policy just because it was proven that he wasn't breaking mall policy on the first accusation?
    Last edited by Curtis; 03-15-2011 at 06:37 PM.

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