Anti firearm stores

You'll also find that the three stand alone McDonalds are anti OC, and Costco is a no go. Nevada Gun Exchange probably won't welcome you either. Will, up at the Armory, recently posted an odd sign that says 'no loaded guns beyond this point except for CCW holders'. Will OC's a Glock 21 around the shop, so the sign is puzzling. Iwas going to ask but the customers were two deep at the counter.

Loneviking said:

Will OC's a Glock 21 around the shop, so the sign is puzzling. Iwas going to ask but the customers were two deep at the counter.

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That's funny, it seems that Will believes in HIS right to defend himself, but when it comes to others rights he suddenly stops believing in the 2nd amendment. Boycott him.

protect our rights said:

That's funny, it seems that Will believes in HIS right to defend himself, but when it comes to others rights he suddenly stops believing in the 2nd amendment. Boycott him.

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You need to reread my post. The sign says 'except CCW'. What I don't know is if that means that those with a CCW can OC or not.

Loneviking said:

You need to reread my post. The sign says 'except CCW'. What I don't know is if that means that those with a CCW can OC or not.

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..but he is still taking away your right to OC in your state. Now he has his own right to do that, but that also means you have the right to NOT shop there. Funny how it was AFTER you paid, huh? Does he have a guard at the door checking peoples permits? :lol:

No OC. Bank of America

No OC. Bank of America, Chayenne and Durango branch.

I had this discussion with Maccabee Arms in Reno BEFORE opening for this very reason. I suggested welcoming ALL gun owners equally.
If you want to handle it, repair trade holster fit etc then it comes in cased and unloaded, after that as long as it remains holstered then the shop doesn't care. It was a sensitive discussion.
Just one of the reasons why Scheels is a no go for me and everyone I can get to listen. No Weapons are allowed on Red Development Property per their code of conduct as posted. Yet Scheels says heres a gun to go out with. Scheels won't allow OC and would prefer no CC either if they could find out about it.

HMMWV said:

No OC. Bank of America, Chayenne and Durango branch.

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Yeah, my local B of A at Decatur & Trop had the balls to tell me from the other side of the 1 inch thick plexi-glass that firearms were typically not allowed. I said "please explain what "typically" means. Their response was that people employed as security guards, law enforcement and state and local officials. I said So by your logic, everyone else just has to hope there will be one of those in the loby when a robbery happens. Then they tried to back peddle and I said you guys obviously feel that there is a potential threat in your bank or you wouldn't have installed this bullet resistant glass. yet you want me to feel safe entering the bank unarmed. They then told me "We never said you couldn't carry a firearm, we just don't like that you do..

BTW, I emailed Smiths as to their firearm policy and got a reply. I'm on an Android and I can't figure out how to reproduce the email on here, but the email says that Smiths abides by all state and local laws. PM me if you want a forwarded copy.

I also emailed the same query to Del Taco and never received a reply.

Nevada carrier said:

They then told me "We never said you couldn't carry a firearm, we just don't like that you do..

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To which the response should be "Fair enough. Which do you not like more, the idea that I carry a firearm or the idea that I will move my business to a different bank?"

If they feel strongly enough about it that they would like you to move, then MOVE. If not, then their dislike is THEIR problem, not YOURS.

Hopefully these are a few issues that were brought on from a few zealous uninformed employees. I have carried all over Las Vegas for a while now and still do. Many different Smiths, Albertsons, Wal-Mart, Sams Club, BofA banks, Frys electronics, Dennys, Outback, Most stores in the Meadows mall including having lunch in the food court. Several of the major stores in the Galleria mall, In-n-out, Trader Joes, Findley Toyota, Walker Furniture, Applebees, Best Buys, Home Depot, Kohl’s and have yet been asked to leave because of my firearm.

I carry a large hard material type level 3 retention holster so it is obvious I am carrying. Was politely asked to leave the Horseshoe casino after we got our picture taken. We were open carrying in front of the million dollars during a Fremont street meet up with some posters from the open carry site.

After reading so many postings on confrontations, I am convinced dress and age not to mention bad luck is a major factor if one will be asked to leave or not. I am of the opinion shirts not tucked in, hiked up, and over the gun might start the first impression heading in a negative direction. I most certainly not saying this was a factor other than may be bad luck in the confrontations in the original posting. However, it would be interesting if there were a way to test my hypothesis.

protect our rights said:

..but he is still taking away your right to OC in your state. Now he has his own right to do that, but that also means you have the right to NOT shop there. Funny how it was AFTER you paid, huh? Does he have a guard at the door checking peoples permits? :lol:

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God forbid you run into a gun owner who didnt have a gadsden flag wrapped around his face while he sings god bless america, right?

28kfps said:

it would be interesting if there were a way to test my hypothesis.

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I wanted to go even more in depth. I was taking a sociology class on ethnic groups last semester and I wanted to do an experiment where first a black man and I would enter a wall-mart unarmed separately and examine the responses as a control, each of us secretly video taping people we interact with or react to us. Then drive to another wall-mart in a neighborhood of similar socioeconomic makeup but this time we would both enter armed but still separately and measure the difference in peoples reactions to me the white male open carrier and to him the black, male, open carrier. I wanted to repeat the experiment to gauge peoples responses in 3 different socio economic class areas. One in a relatively poor area, one in a middle income area, and one in an upper income area. It would have required a total of six stores, one test and one control for each class. I also wanted to adjust our attire to that common to those class groups that would frequent stores in that area.

I ran the idea past my sociology instructor and she loved the idea, but I couldn't find any black students who were willing to take up the task. Their typical response was that they feared being charged with a crime at the least, and shot by the police at worst. One even said, "the police already respond violently to even an unarmed black man, I would hate to see what they would do if they spotted a black man carrying a gun." I can't say I blame him, as people tend to talk a good game about how they feel about minorities, but when it comes to gut reaction, many people have a long way to go before they can claim to behave without prejudice. Unfortunate, but still true nonetheless.

wrightme said:

Bad ida.


Simply tell them you will no longer pay for their product, AND you will encourage your friends to no longer pay for their product, as the store is a defense-free zone.

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People like that don't care what you tell them or your friends. They have to learn the hard way.

calmp9 said:

People like that don't care what you tell them or your friends. They have to learn the hard way.

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+1 on this. Look at it from their perspective (not involving firearms, but something else which you percieve is wrong). Let's say that they are slapping around a wife/child, and you are an employee at that store. You tell them that you will not allow that kind of behavior because you don't agree with it and ask them to leave or stop. They say that they will never spend their money their again if you make them stop being abusive. Would you care? I know I wouldn't. From their perspective it is the same thing, something which THEY perceive as wrong. No point taking the fight up with them. I would ask them for contact information for their manager or corporate and deal with it from there.

Nevada carrier said:

I can't say I blame him, as people tend to talk a good game about how they feel about minorities, but when it comes to gut reaction, many people have a long way to go before they can claim to behave without prejudice. Unfortunate, but still true nonetheless.

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This reaction in itself warrants a study. You can only call something a "right" when everyone is able to enjoy it. It would be interesting to do the study with several "minorities" (black, Latino, Asian, both male and female) OC, or wearing "gunny" T-shirts.

The problem is that you went to students for help. It should be easier to find volunteers in the late 20s.

DVC said:

This reaction in itself warrants a study. You can only call something a "right" when everyone is able to enjoy it. It would be interesting to do the study with several "minorities" (black, Latino, Asian, both male and female) OC, or wearing "gunny" T-shirts.

The problem is that you went to students for help. It should be easier to find volunteers in the late 20s.

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The folks I asked ranged from their late teens to their late fifties. I asked black females and males across this age spectrum if they would participate, the reaction was universal. The only one I found who would participate was not a student. I later interviewed him to find out if they would be disqualified from possessing a firearm and it turns out they have a domestic violence conviction.

While I would not reap any scholastic rewards and still have an interest in the results, I just don't have the time to invest as I've moved on to more challenging subject matter in school. That, compounded by my work, lobbying for SB231 and occasionally sleep leaves no time to take on another project.

KarateKyle said:

+1 on this. Look at it from their perspective (not involving firearms, but something else which you percieve is wrong). Let's say that they are slapping around a wife/child, and you are an employee at that store. You tell them that you will not allow that kind of behavior because you don't agree with it and ask them to leave or stop. They say that they will never spend their money their again if you make them stop being abusive. Would you care? I know I wouldn't. From their perspective it is the same thing, something which THEY perceive as wrong. No point taking the fight up with them. I would ask them for contact information for their manager or corporate and deal with it from there.

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Well the one (Abusive) is not only perceived wrong, it is ILLEGAL. That my friend is the difference.

protect our rights said:

Well the one (Abusive) is not only perceived wrong, it is ILLEGAL. That my friend is the difference.

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Not really. It doesn't matter if something is legal or illegal as we're talking about how someone feels about something. Just as how if the employee had no problem with abuse he likely wouldn't say anything.

The only difference is with one being illegal they can call the cops. But either way they are unlikely to care if you tell your friends not to shop there and if you yourself go somewhere else.

protect our rights said:

Well the one (Abusive) is not only perceived wrong, it is ILLEGAL. That my friend is the difference.

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I respectfully disagree with this echoing the comments before me. Whether it was illegal or not; if they had no problem with it or supported it, they would likely let it go. Perhaps the abuse specifically was a bad example, I merely meant to find an action which we universally portrayed as "bad". The point I was trying to make earlier, was that the people on the other end could really care less about any threats you make towards them, they enjoy the feeling of power they get from telling you to leave. I know whenever I was in that position, I could care less how much someone said they would never come back to my carwash, or how big of a customer they were, etc. If they were doing something which I perceived as wrong (VERY hard to do I should add. Nearly running over a little girl crosses that line though). Get the number/name of management or corporate, and do not attempt to take it up with the front line workers, or "fight them" so to speak. They don't lose money if you don't come back, and if you really DON'T come back, they sure as hell aren't going to tell their manager that they lost a big customer. Get names and leave is my philosophy.

KarateKyle said:

I respectfully disagree with this echoing the comments before me. Whether it was illegal or not; if they had no problem with it or supported it, they would likely let it go. Perhaps the abuse specifically was a bad example, I merely meant to find an action which we universally portrayed as "bad". The point I was trying to make earlier, was that the people on the other end could really care less about any threats you make towards them, they enjoy the feeling of power they get from telling you to leave. I know whenever I was in that position, I could care less how much someone said they would never come back to my carwash, or how big of a customer they were, etc. If they were doing something which I perceived as wrong (VERY hard to do I should add. Nearly running over a little girl crosses that line though). Get the number/name of management or corporate, and do not attempt to take it up with the front line workers, or "fight them" so to speak. They don't lose money if you don't come back, and if you really DON'T come back, they sure as hell aren't going to tell their manager that they lost a big customer. Get names and leave is my philosophy.

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I got what you are saying now. I guess I should have put more though into what you were trying to say.

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