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    Question Earlington Ky 42410 ATV area NO Weapons

    ** TICKETS PURCHASED, NO BAN LISTED IN RULES DUE TO "FALL OUT" FROM LAST YEAR.**

    I have not verified this, but will do so tomorrow when I purchase tickets for the weekend. I have been told by a reliable source that the rules say no guns allowed either OC or CC in the ATV park. The only local officer is an avid ATVer and has sad the same thing. (reliable source road with him) I believe this is a city owned property, and they charge a fee to access it. I dont know if that makes a difference or not. Apparently there is a roving ranger that IS armed and will arrest anyone armed.
    I AM indeed going to the ATV park this weekend, as I live right down the road from it. Once the rules are handed to me and I sign the waiver and know what is true, I'll let you know for sure. I just wanted to know where I stand as an OCer and a CCer. I'd like to be armed going into 600+ acres of woods, not knowing who, or what is out there... From all I've read, they can regulate the CC, but can they really regulate OC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by klloyd View Post
    I have not verified this, but will do so tomorrow when I purchase tickets for the weekend. I have been told by a reliable source that the rules say no guns allowed either OC or CC in the ATV park. The only local officer is an avid ATVer and has sad the same thing. (reliable source road with him) I believe this is a city owned property, and they charge a fee to access it. I dont know if that makes a difference or not. Apparently there is a roving ranger that IS armed and will arrest anyone armed.
    I AM indeed going to the ATV park this weekend, as I live right down the road from it. Once the rules are handed to me and I sign the waiver and know what is true, I'll let you know for sure. I just wanted to know where I stand as an OCer and a CCer. I'd like to be armed going into 600+ acres of woods, not knowing who, or what is out there... From all I've read, they can regulate the CC, but can they really regulate OC?

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    I am not a lawyer but it sounds to me like you are signing a contract agreeing to waive your Rights in return for using the facility and as such you are not being deprived of your Rights but voluntarily giving them up.
    He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent which will reach to himself. -- Thomas Paine (1737--1809), Dissertation on First Principles of Government, 1795

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutshot View Post
    First, find out who owns the ATV park and who is banning the guns. Is it the city/county that says it's illegal? If so what law is being violated? If the city or county owns it, the gun ban is illegal and unenforceable. OC can not be banned in any manner and CC can only be banned in buildings, by passing an ordinance. I doubt a 600 acre ATV park is inside a building. Charging admission does not change anything. If the park is private property guns may be banned by the owner, but it would not be a crime to violate that and city/county LEO have no business enforcing private property owners policies. The owner could only ask you to leave or deny entry, if they knew you had a gun. If you refused to leave the LEO could cite you for trespass. Who employs the Ranger? Is he a certified law enforcement officer? Does he have a badge and uniform? What insignias does the uniform have? For what crime will he cite a person with a gun?
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    Looks like it's city owned.

    http://www.earlingtongovcity.com/ATVPark.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by flb_78 View Post
    Also looks like they weren't foolish enough to try and ban the carry of weapons(according to the rules listed on the page)
    He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent which will reach to himself. -- Thomas Paine (1737--1809), Dissertation on First Principles of Government, 1795

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    Sorry guys, ran out of time yesterday. I have a doctor appointment right down the street today, so I'll grab them for sure today.

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    No Ban

    Ok, got tickets, read rules, and NOTHING is mentioned in there about weapons. Just drugs and alcohol. I asked about the weapons ban from previous year, and the lady at the desk said there was some "fall out" about the restrictions from the last riding season, and subsequently had to change the rules. Looks like some of you guys beat me to this one!

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    One also has to remember that even if you sign a contract, if a provision of that contract breaks state law, the provision is null and void regardless of you signing it.

    This comes up most in lease agreements for rental properties, but it applies to anything.
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