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    at the 1:35 mark, the dude says, "we do have a lot of people down here from states that don't even allow you to have a gun pretty much." ummmmm which state would that be where you aren't allowed to own a gun? as i remember- wasn't there just a huge lawsuit filed in DC a few years ago?
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    We met Lamecha Mingo as she was shooting her brand new Glock 40 caliber. She said she bought it for protection, and she likes the idea of carrying it in the open.
    "You never know. Just in case something happens, you have that weapon there, maybe you can scare them off, use it to defend yourself," she said.
    Is that a Glock she is actually firing at 1:56? Does not look like it to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer6 View Post
    at the 1:35 mark, the dude says, "we do have a lot of people down here from states that don't even allow you to have a gun pretty much." ummmmm which state would that be where you aren't allowed to own a gun? as i remember- wasn't there just a huge lawsuit filed in DC a few years ago?
    He did say "Pretty much". It is damn hard in parts of NY, NJ, IL, DC, and other places to own a handgun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfish View Post
    He did say "Pretty much". It is damn hard in parts of NY, NJ, IL, DC, and other places to own a handgun.
    yeah but his point was that people from those states would come down here and open carry....which won't and CAN'T happen...i was just implying that there's no state that prohibits gun ownership...right??
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    If Open Carry scares the people from NY and NJ away, this will be the greatest and most important piece of legislation passed in the history of the state of Florida. Unfortunately, almost no one except "law enforcement officers" will freak out about it, and they will be few too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    If Open Carry scares the people from NY and NJ away, this will be the greatest and most important piece of legislation passed in the history of the state of Florida. Unfortunately, almost no one except "law enforcement officers" will freak out about it, and they will be few too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer6 View Post
    yeah but his point was that people from those states would come down here and open carry....which won't and CAN'T happen...i was just implying that there's no state that prohibits gun ownership...right??
    Full prohibition throughout a State? No.
    Full prohibition in a non-state? Yes, DC allowed no legal handgun ownership for many years. I think it was finally ruled unconstitutional, but they still can't carry.
    Nearly full prohibition in cities/districts - NYC and Chicago. That's what sucks about lack of pre-emption in many states.
    NY, IL, HI, CA, NJ have serious hurdles to getting a carry permit.

    But yes, those who have carry permits/licenses from their state, if recognized by FL, will be able to CC or OC just like us when they're visiting, and to them I say "Carry On!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer6 View Post
    yeah but his point was that people from those states would come down here and open carry....which won't and CAN'T happen...i was just implying that there's no state that prohibits gun ownership...right??
    I took it to mean those folks would not like it and not return to spend tourist dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~*'Phoenix'*~ View Post
    But yes, those who have carry permits/licenses from their state, if recognized by FL, will be able to CC or OC just like us when they're visiting, and to them I say "Carry On!"
    Hell, they could even get a non-res FL permit and OC a borrowed gun.

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    these cops are "IDIOTS" I have several friends that are leo's and they are o.k. with it(o.c) . the sheriff of hillsbourough county thinks that everyone attending gasparilla day is going to be drunk and o.c.ing. again what an idiot. im not a leo basher again i have several friends that are leos and i respect them for what they do but it seems the people that don't want o.c. in the state of florida put the law abiding cetizens and common criminals in the same group. and come on a 40 hour course on holding on to your gun if the bg tries to grab it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    If Open Carry scares the people from NY and NJ away, this will be the greatest and most important piece of legislation passed in the history of the state of Florida. Unfortunately, almost no one except "law enforcement officers" will freak out about it, and they will be few too.
    Hey now, we ain't all bad, some of us "get it" and can think beyond an emotional kneejerk reaction. I was born and raised in Cali the second and I was the first one to suggest a petition to OC in Florida here in this forum. One of the main reasons I left NY was because of the ever increasing hoops and rings of fire they made you jump through to own a handgun, much less carry it in any useful way and I'll leave here too if this bill doesn't pass. That's how important it is to me, course it isn't the act of OC'ing itself...it's the principle that's of main import. Why stay in a minority state that doesn't recognize constitutional rights when 43 others do? One could say my fate is tied up in legislature at the moment as failing to pass here, I'll wait and see what happens in Texas with it's OC bill, that fails I'll see ya in Virginia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FzSBLACKMAGICK View Post
    Hey now, we ain't all bad, some of us "get it" and can think beyond an emotional kneejerk reaction. I was born and raised in Cali the second and I was the first one to suggest a petition to OC in Florida here in this forum. One of the main reasons I left NY was because of the ever increasing hoops and rings of fire they made you jump through to own a handgun, much less carry it in any useful way and I'll leave here too if this bill doesn't pass. That's how important it is to me, course it isn't the act of OC'ing itself...it's the principle that's of main import. Why stay in a minority state that doesn't recognize constitutional rights when 43 others do? One could say my fate is tied up in legislature at the moment as failing to pass here, I'll wait and see what happens in Texas with it's OC bill, that fails I'll see ya in Virginia.
    Glad you are here. I was speaking in generalities. I'm with you. It's the principle. There are some states I refuse to live in. ca, il, ny,nj,ri,ct,ma,md

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    Glad you are here. I was speaking in generalities. I'm with you. It's the principle. There are some states I refuse to live in. ca, il, ny,nj,ri,ct,ma,md
    Whats wrong with ct? Ct is the only state with the board of firearms! Ct is an oc state and does not have many restritions>

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    Quote Originally Posted by mach116993 View Post
    Whats wrong with ct? Ct is the only state with the board of firearms! Ct is an oc state and does not have many restritions>
    Ct has an "assault weapons" ban. That is, rifles most effective for militia use. For example my FAL and AR would be illegal in Ct. As important as OC is, I would never ever trade military pattern long gun possession for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    if open carry scares the people from ny and nj away, this will be the greatest and most important piece of legislation passed in the history of the state of florida. Unfortunately, almost no one except "law enforcement officers" will freak out about it, and they will be few too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    Ct has an "assault weapons" ban. That is, rifles most effective for militia use. For example my FAL and AR would be illegal in Ct. As important as OC is, I would never ever trade military pattern long gun possession for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    If Open Carry scares the people from NY and NJ away, this will be the greatest and most important piece of legislation passed in the history of the state of Florida. Unfortunately, almost no one except "law enforcement officers" will freak out about it, and they will be few too.
    + bajillion

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    I say on the day it passes everyone OCs for the day

    Plus even being a part time resident and switching between indiana and florida atleast for the next 6 months to a year screw the tourist, if your afraid GO HOME.
    I grew up in a gun free home, not my folks were against it, just my mom was afraid of having guns in the home. Now SHE JUST DEALS WITH IT LOL
    I see no issue here, and do not get why LE does, heck I have talked about it with the local cops here in town even though it is indiana seems most are ok with it. I asked one officer about being pulled over, I asked do I need to inform you or another officer. He said it is not the law that you do so, but some want you to and some don't I could careless either way. A different officer told me I should inform them.

    SO I say lets see just which way the dangerous line goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfish View Post
    Hell, they could even get a non-res FL permit and OC a borrowed gun.
    I should start a new business nationwide!
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    I feel like the news has more info about this bill than us . They said the bill is expected to pass with a vote likely in the next week or two, but I see nothing even scheduled.

    I did notice HR517 seemed to have "skipped" the Agriculture committee and gone onto the Judiciary? probably just a detour.

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    There is no budgetary impact in the bill for the Agriculture and Natural Resources Appropriations Subcommittee to provide oversight for in this bill. It is appropriate that the subcommittee not be involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StogieC View Post
    There is no budgetary impact in the bill for the Agriculture and Natural Resources Appropriations Subcommittee to provide oversight for in this bill. It is appropriate that the subcommittee not be involved.
    Who has the authority to make that call, or skip a committee? There is so much for me to learn.

    The Senate Judiciary Committee put out their meeting notice for March 22 8:00AM. I didn't see SB234 on this notice. Might we be skipping next week in the Senate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigmalg View Post
    Who has the authority to make that call, or skip a committee? There is so much for me to learn.

    The Senate Judiciary Committee put out their meeting notice for March 22 8:00AM. I didn't see SB234 on this notice. Might we be skipping next week in the Senate?
    The senate president's office and the house speaker's office assign bills to the committees that have oversight related to the bill. This bill has no appropriations in it.

    Anything I could say about the committee schedules would be pure speculation. Just keep an eye out for our alerts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StogieC View Post
    I should start a new business nationwide!
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