This is the main reason to stand our ground, it is the one main reason I am hopeful this law passes, it is because, it is our right just as carrying a firearm is our right. and it does NOT matter what they write in the the rules. We still do not have to have a tyranny government take away one right just to try and keep another. I believe all of our rights are important but our
Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Is one I dont take lightly on losing, So to give up one right to get another is DUMB these are our rights and they will not be infringed upon. I know what you are going to say now but once we get them back they will never change them back. They will try but they will NOT succeed. and We the people need to quite sacrificing on these matters. So others feel more comfortable. THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND IT WAS BUILT ON THE GOD AND THE CONSTITUTION AND IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE IT GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND GO BACK TO YOUR BETTER COUNTRY IF IT WAS SO GOOD THERE. AND LEAVE OUR FREEDOMS ALONE PERIOD.
Some good points, and I dont disagree. However, by the same token, reality is this: You are armed, the cop is armed, the cop is recognized as an authority, we are not.
W/e the situation,if cop is checking one of us out-for whatever the reason (officer safety, public safety, a call by an alarmed citizen, whatever) is it in your or our best interest at that moment to make a scene-a potentially deadly scene, at that- and create a situation which u nor I will win anything by?
Or would it be more prudent to be calm and professional,comply within reason, to avoid escalating a possibly edgy-nervous (and dont forget,
armed ) LEO to the point where he is inspired to open fire on you- (like with ixtow,for example :banghead
? Perhaps get the pertinent information (badge #, name, copy of any citations/etc. ) and make your case in a more appropriate setting. Say in a lawsuit, with a lawyer at your side- and make a case of it that way,if you are so inclined?
But let the provocation/escalation be on the
officer-not u or us.
Getting into a 2nd/4th amendment rant (which would likely go right over some rookie cop's head, anyway) with the guy while you have a gun on your hip is just inviting a Darwin Award, I'm sure. And once your down, you can be pretty sure which way a Dept. will spin things-in court and in the media.
The street is not the place to pick a 2nd/4th Amendment debate. Pick your battles, and choose your battlefields, carefully. Doing so isnt "surrendering" or "selling out" it's just being prudent for your own good, and for that of the rest of us who just want to carry and be left alone.
As for constitutions and the like- take
that up with the
politicians ,in the only 3 places/ways they grasp-
the pocket, the media,and the voting booth.
We're getting there, slowly but surely- the fact we are even discussing this
possible bill at all, is
proof of that. Little by little folks.