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    judge stops teen with gun

    dont know if this was posted yet but its a good story of the judge being real world tested

    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/02/0...y-day-shooter/

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    It doesn't say if he was loaded with .45 or .410, which is key to the debate.

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    actually in the video it says he hit the kid in the head with 2 of the copper pellets from one of the two shots he fired..you can actually see the pattern of the buckshot from his first shot that hit a wall

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    I like the mothers comments about why didn't he just fire a warning shot?.... He did, the first shot that missed was the warning shot!

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    And they asked "why didn't he just shoot him in the leg?" So he can come back and sue? Give me a break
    ‘‘Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.’’ Thomas Jefferson

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    It was mentioned to the mother that her son was on drugs... but they interviewer did not mention, to the mother, that the kid had a handgun.

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    Real world testing consists of dozens of shootings such as this one. 10 years from now we'll have some real evidence about the Judge's street credibility. If it has any, it is only because of the multiple hit capability per shot which put it somewhere in the firepower range of the anemic VZ61 Scorpion.

    For the time being, I'll keep going under the assumption that a revolver filled with 45 colt is lacking as capacity to power goes, and that a full sized 410 sucks, never mind a sawed off 410.
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    Note to Self: Avoid positioning self between aggressors and their egress.

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    Any time someone is killed there is a family that will cry for them. Cops, Soldiers, Spies, Thugs, any one. It doesn't matter if they were a good person, a bad person, if they deserved it or if it was murder.

    I know if anyone in my family died I know it would make me sad, regardless if they deserved it or not.

    But I certainly wouldn't go on the news and try to make it seem like they weren't in the wrong if they were committing an unlawful criminal act against someone.

    I guess if you have Taurus Judge you should go for head shots though.
    Which makes me wonder how close they were when the shooting occurred.
    Also, isn't that a very strange comment about the Judge being the gun all judges carry in court? I guess some people like to make stuff up when they are writing official pieces of journalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeGlock40 View Post
    actually in the video it says he hit the kid in the head with 2 of the copper pellets from one of the two shots he fired..you can actually see the pattern of the buckshot from his first shot that hit a wall
    Thanks, I only read the article and didn't watch the video.

    So, that's still not convincing, to me. Lots of low-power rounds can be fatal when shot in the head, when they wouldn't even begin to slow someone down if delivered center mass.

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    the first round missed, that is a warning shot!

    if i am in my house and a burglar pulls a gun on me i will cap his ass faster than he can blink

    **** trying to provide medical attention to the attempted murderer

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    gunny Hathcock layed on his trigger before...

    Quote Originally Posted by js5439 View Post
    the first round missed, that is a warning shot!

    if i am in my house and a burglar pulls a gun on me i will cap his ass faster than he can blink

    **** trying to provide medical attention to the attempted murderer
    before the other VC did... I pray that will be us too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anti-socialist View Post
    before the other VC did... I pray that will be us too.
    I'm a little confused here can you dumb that down a little for me?

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    I feel sorry for the shooter, the mom, the godmother, and even the kid. sometimes we walk down scary roads that end with bad things happing. It is a true shame for all, but the shame to me is the man spent 5k defending his actions

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    I believe that this person got what was coming to him. Don't mean to sound crude but I stand behind the home owner on this one. It was justified in what he did to protect himself.
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    I think he had 410 00 buckshot, as they talk in the video about 2 shots in the road, and so buckshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by js5439 View Post
    I'm a little confused here can you dumb that down a little for me?
    The celebrated counter-sniper rifle shot through the scope. Attributed to USMC sniper Carlos Hathcock against a Viet Cong (VC) or North Vietnamese Army (NVA) sniper he and his spotter were deliberately hunting.

    Just prior to the famous shot, both snipers were hunting the other. The bad-guy knew he was being hunted and was counter-hunting. If I recall he even took a shot at Burke (Hathcock's spotter), busting his canteen.

    The story goes, as published in the book Marine Sniper: 93 Confirmed Kills that Hathcock was scoping some foliage where he thought the enemy sniper would be, but couldn't see anything. Then a slight glint. Hathcock decided to chance a shot at that glint's location, not knowing whether the enemy sniper was there. He was.

    When they picked up the dead enemy sniper's rifle, they realized the only way Hathcock's bullet could go through the scope is if the enemy sniper had his cross-hairs on Hathcock. Thus, the idea that Hathcock was quicker on the trigger.

    A little wording problem with Anti-Socialist's post: Hathcock was not a VC as implied by "before the other VC did."

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    The kid pulled a gun on a home owner who was ready to defend his life.

    Kutchin said his heart goes out to the family of Marcus Duran. But he says he owes no apologies.

    “I did the right thing. He was an individual who made an error in judgment that was very costly. It was an error in judgment that he chose to end his life,” said Kutchin.
    I applaud that statement.

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    It sounds very cold, but this teenager died of a common failing of teenagers and a very common root cause of teenaged deaths. He died of terminal stupidity.

    I would not doubt that some on the board had at least one close call with that cause.
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