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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...rt-applicants-drug-use-prevent-gun-purchases/
Honestly, if you think its no big deal to tell your recruiter you used to do drugs, especially when you're trying to help that recruiter get you a job...maybe you really shouldn't be carrying a gun.
But in all seriousness, what if you fail the drug test at MEPs when you're trying to enlist and they decide to make that transmittable to the FBI? We want to keep the streets safe...maybe private businesses who give drug test their employees should be mandated reporters as well, after all, we don't want those people owning guns.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/19/politics/washingtonpost/main7262057.shtml
So if a command decide to handle the test failure "in house" (as they oftentimes do), would they be exempt from reporting? Many units are severely understrength and cannot risk losing a soldier who has proven to be good at their job because he fails a drug test. The 1 year ban is beyond silly...if we find out, no matter when in the last 20 years you smoked that joint, you're going in time out for a year mister. If we REALLY wanted to get guns off of the street, don't let the DEA ban Spice and bath salts...just mandate that shops selling it give the credit card information of those who purchase the products to the government. That way they can be added to the list for possible violation of the Federal Analog Act
If we're going to think up even more gun control measures, how about we start somewhere rational...like the fact that only in a few states is it illegal to consume alcohol while open carrying.
Remember folks...collective punishment is the way to keep people in line. When one person does something wrong, its best to take advantage of the tragedy and run with it, so long as it suits your agenda.
*Disclaimer: Military related statements lacking citation may be anecdotal evidence from personal experience*
If someone admits to a federal official that he's used illegal drugs, that information should be sent to the FBI so that person can be disqualified from purchasing a gun, Sen. Chuck Schumer said Sunday.
Noting that the alleged shooter in the Tucson massacre had admitted to military recruiters that he had used drugs on several occasions, Schumer said he is proposing to the Justice Department and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that the military be required to notify federal officials about such admissions. The New York Democrat said such a process does not require new legislation.
Jared Lee Loughner is charged with five federal counts in the killing of a federal judge and shooting of Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. The mass shooting January 8 outside a Safeway grocery store resulted in six dead and 13 injured.
A military official told Fox News last week that Loughner was rejected from enlisting in the Army in 2008 because he admitted he had used drugs. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because privacy laws prevent the military from disclosing such information about an individual's application.
Schumer said if military recruiters or other officials report admissions of drug use to a national database, those individuals could be denied a gun.
"After Jared Loughner was interviewed by the military, he was rejected from the Army because of excessive drug use. Now, by law, by law that's on the books, he should not have been allowed to buy a gun," Schumer told NBC's "Meet the Press."
"But the law doesn't require the military to notify the FBI about that, and in this case they didn't. So I --this morning -- I'm writing the administration and urging that that be done, that the military notify the FBI when someone is rejected from the military for excessive drug use and that be added to the FBI database," Schumer said.
Honestly, if you think its no big deal to tell your recruiter you used to do drugs, especially when you're trying to help that recruiter get you a job...maybe you really shouldn't be carrying a gun.
But in all seriousness, what if you fail the drug test at MEPs when you're trying to enlist and they decide to make that transmittable to the FBI? We want to keep the streets safe...maybe private businesses who give drug test their employees should be mandated reporters as well, after all, we don't want those people owning guns.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/19/politics/washingtonpost/main7262057.shtml
The Reno policy remained in place despite a 2007 law designed to improve the NICS. That law ordered all federal agencies to forward to the FBI the names of those ineligible under federal law to buy a gun from a licensed dealer.
The law states that the names are to be sent at least quarterly, "notwithstanding any other law."
Despite the NICS Improvement Amendments Act, the Defense Department apparently did not change its policy. Drug test information is still not forwarded to the FBI to protect the privacy of the applicants, said Col. Thomas Collins, an Army spokesman.
"Currently, there is no statute that clearly stipulates what conditions or scenario would warrant a report about military applicants or recruits to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System," said Defense Department spokeswoman Eileen Lainez.
If Loughner had been put on the prohibited list in 2008, he would have remained there for one year under the rules of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which enforces federal gun law. It will never be known if he would have tried to buy a second gun after being denied the first.
Few drug abusers wind up on the NICS list as being ineligible to purchase a firearm because of that abuse or addiction...
Anyone can end up on the list if it can be determined that the person has abused drugs within a year, Strong said. For example, a current or former member of the armed forces can be added to the list if a soldier is disciplined, arrested, convicted at court-martial or discharged for drug abuse.
So if a command decide to handle the test failure "in house" (as they oftentimes do), would they be exempt from reporting? Many units are severely understrength and cannot risk losing a soldier who has proven to be good at their job because he fails a drug test. The 1 year ban is beyond silly...if we find out, no matter when in the last 20 years you smoked that joint, you're going in time out for a year mister. If we REALLY wanted to get guns off of the street, don't let the DEA ban Spice and bath salts...just mandate that shops selling it give the credit card information of those who purchase the products to the government. That way they can be added to the list for possible violation of the Federal Analog Act
If we're going to think up even more gun control measures, how about we start somewhere rational...like the fact that only in a few states is it illegal to consume alcohol while open carrying.
Remember folks...collective punishment is the way to keep people in line. When one person does something wrong, its best to take advantage of the tragedy and run with it, so long as it suits your agenda.
*Disclaimer: Military related statements lacking citation may be anecdotal evidence from personal experience*