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Great article on pistol bullet stopping power

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http://www.handgunsmag.com/ammunition/what_you_need_to_know_about_stopping_power_031711//index.html

SNIP:
What does it all mean? Ammunition that fails to stop an adversary is usually due to poor shot placement and not poor ammo performance. Expansion is a means to an end--not the end result. You're better off with a bullet that failed to expand but hit a vital organ than with a fully expanded bullet that did not hit anything important.

Remember, in order to be effective, handgun bullets must strike a vital location, and no amount of expansion or bullet diameter will change this. The best thing anyone can do to ensure his or her ammo incapacitates a dangerous attacker is to train hard to hit vital areas of the body while bobbing, moving and weaving as would happen in a real fight. This means training time and ammunition, and no super-duper, thermonuclear +P+, thunder-flash, wonder hollowpoint will make up for this.
 

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Agencies all over the world have been looking for
clear definitive bottom line answer.

I hope they never get one.

Because,the very second there is one...Some
low life politician will want to outlaw it from us citizens using it.

LR Yote
 

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Just in time

Agencies all over the world have been looking for
clear definitive bottom line answer.

I hope they never get one.

Because,the very second there is one...Some
low life politician will want to outlaw it from us citizens using it.

LR Yote

I have that clear definitive bottom-line answer and I was just going to post it when I read the above. So, to prevent any further damage to our rights, I will not let anybody ever know what I know now.
 

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I have that clear definitive bottom-line answer and I was just going to post it when I read the above. So, to prevent any further damage to our rights, I will not let anybody ever know what I know now.

Yes, but now we know you know. And, you know we know you know. So, you're half convicted, you know.

All that remains is to establish when you knew it.

:D

PS: Wait, we already know. He knew it when he made the post!
 
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McX

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a good article, and good pic. i beleive i shall infringe on this pic for awhile, and make use of it.
 

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bullets must strike a vital location, and no amount of expansion or bullet diameter will change this.

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Or will it?
 

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Hahah - I wonder what the twist rate on that baby is?

USS Wisconsin by the way BB-64 with 6 battle stars.

Bore Length 800 in (20.32 m)
Rifling Length 682.9 in (17.35 m)
Grooves (96) 0.150 in deep (3.81 mm)
Lands N/A
Twist Uniform RH 1 in 25
 

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Effective range about 20 miles with 16" Mark 7 guns, Max range about 25 miles.

The Mark 7 fired a projectile weighing about 1 ton.

Obviously, the picture show that the guns were openly carried.
 
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LR Yote 312

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Effective range about 20 miles with 16" Mark 7 guns, Max range about 25 miles.

The Mark 7 fired a projectile weighing about 1 ton.

Obviously, the picture show that the guns were openly carried.

I want one!!!! .... Umm, Better make that 2 of them.

The first might overheat.

LR Yote
 

LR Yote 312

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Eat your heart out Yote, here are nine of them

Ahhh...A thing of Beauty to be sure.
Big Ear to Ear grin.
My little heart is goin thumpity thump!!!


Gotta love how the entire ship moves over when the guns are fired!

That topic comes up once or twice a year on The Hide.
Some of the guys that served on the Mighty Mo claimed it dont.
They claim the displacement or draft of the keel prevents that from happening.

They are also saying the water that makes it look like the ship is moving is
actually the water being pushed back into the ship from the air that was displaced
as the projectile moves outward away from the ship.

When the (huge) projectile moves thru the air it leaves a void on the backside.
Air rushes back in to to fill the void and drags the water with it and makes it appear as the ship is moving.

I poked around for 15 mins or so looking for the thread over there but wasnt able to find it.

They also mention on one of the other battleships how when a certain # gun is fired...it tosses the water from the (Officers?) head.

LR Yote
 

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GLOCK21GB

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Very good read, although my federal 115g +p Hollow points will do the job , 2 to the chest, 1 to the head.
but I will pick up a box of those 124 g +p Hollow Points in the near future.
 
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