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Virginia Open Carry LOGO Shirts, Challenge Coins and Patches

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ed said:
Thanks Citizen. Yeah.. it went thru many changes and ideas.. Bottom line, I it looks a little busy on a forum but on a T-shirt when it is full size, it looks fine.
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Oh, I see. OK, makes sense.

While we're on the subject, what diameter is it when applied to a tee shirt?
 
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skidmark said:
Confirmed via David Nimms at Va. Dept. of General Services, who is the person you need to start with for approval of commercial uses of the State Seal.

That being said, the State Flag in Ed's logo design is hung upside down. What is the bottom left corner should be the top right corner. The US Flag is back to front - the blue field should be at the top right corner, not the top left.

I'd rather have the t-shirt design on the front than on the back. It will get seen more if on the front - especially if you are sitting down when wearing the t-shirt. It will allow folks to interact with the wearer right away, as opposed to waiting for the wearer to go past them and hope they turn around to see if there is anything on the back of the t-shirt.

As for www.virginiaopencarry.org - it seems someone has registered that url and caused it to reflect back to the Virginia forum index page.

stay safe.
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That was my only issue with the picture, the hung flag does not appear 'correct'. But the concept is cool. Instead of a tshirt I would like a patch.
 
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Citizen said:
Oh, I see. OK, makes sense.

While we're on the subject, what diameter is it when applied to a tee shirt?
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12 to 14" depending on which shirt you put it on.. I also posted the actual files so that folks don't have to use Zazzle.. They can use CustomInk.com or other sites too. This is not a money making program.. just an idea that came to fruition.
 
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ProShooter said:
I understand that, but the keeper of the Seal is the Secretary of the Commonwealth AFAIK. I think he'd be the one that permission should come from...but I could be wrong.
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David Nimms at GS is the identified point of contact where one starts applying for commercial use of the Great or Lesser Seal. He does the reviewing and sends along an "opinion" to the SecComm who does the final say-so.

So, in technical terms you are not wrong. In practical terms if Mr. Nimms does not luke it you are not gettinf the SecComm to like it either.

stay safe.
 

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skidmark said:
one starts applying for commercial use
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Just in case skid and pro missed it..

I DON'T CARE!!!

It's not for "commercial use". It is for personal use. There is NO such organization as Virginia Open Carry. If Westboro Baptist Chuch can protest funerals of friends of mine I will DAMN WELL put whatever the F I want on a T-shirt. If you don't want one, or don't like the concept, or logo or flag positions or you have enough shirts.. then by ALL MEANS.. DON'T GET ONE!!!

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ProShooter said:
You are free to do as you see fit, Ed.

The way that it was explained to me a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, was that since the flag contained the SEAL, it was the same thing. If case law has changed that, so be it.

I have enough shirts anyway.
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As I said earlier in my cite-less post... the word straight from the horse's mouth at that time (about 4 or 5 years ago, IIRC) was that as long as it reasonably resembled a flag, there could be no objection.

TFred
 
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ed said:
Just in case skid and pro missed it..

I DON'T CARE!!!

It's not for "commercial use". It is for personal use. There is NO such organization as Virginia Open Carry. If Westboro Baptist Chuch can protest funerals of friends of mine I will DAMN WELL put whatever the F I want on a T-shirt. If you don't want one, or don't like the concept, or logo or flag positions or you have enough shirts.. then by ALL MEANS.. DON'T GET ONE!!!

:dude:
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Well, its says you can't use it for "for nongovernmental purposes" but I know, I know....you don't care.

Did ya copyright it yet?
 
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ed said:
If you don't want one, or don't like the concept, or logo or flag positions or you have enough shirts.. then by ALL MEANS.. DON'T GET ONE!!!
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Well that's just a silly bit of advice to feel the need to say. Hopefully any reasonable person that decides they don't like something doesn't need to be told to not get it. Is that a roundabout way of telling naysayers to shut up?
 
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ed said:
I am using it for governmental purpose.. I am using it to rebell! :D

Works are automatically copyrighted at their moment of creation.
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Yes but the damages you can get if the work is infringed upon is different. Registering the copyright lets you get statutory damages in addition to actual damages. So there can/is a benefit to registering it.
 
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Dear Friends,

I bring new news of the powerful gun-lobby. They have begun to exploit a loophole that allows them to use the great seal of the state of Virginia alongside the flag of our great nation. I am aghast that they have put these symbols with a gun. They have combined the symbols of freedom and of democracy with a symbol of self-defense. How dare they! I am beside myself with anger! Therefore, support me, send me money to fight the gun lobby and help me to close the flag loophole that allows them to flaunt and combine these great symbols of freedom.

Thank you, send much money.
 
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