Just wanted to say hi to everyone. I found this forum last night and seems great! Lots of good info and support here. I do have one quick question I've yet to get a straight answer on.. I do not have a CCDW in all honesty prob simply due to being lazy and not wanting to dedicate an entire sat. To it.. With that being said I drive a tow truck for a living a do occasionaly draw the night shift as of in the event of last night I was called out by a local orginization to impound a vehical in a secluded area that belong to a violent offender that was said to be mentally unstable so to speak. So long story short is it legal to OC while on duty with work? Just for the record I'm not just a 20 something guy who just went and bought a pistol I am a combat vet who was raised with fire arms my entire life
Last edited by hotrod; 03-26-2011 at 04:58 PM.
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Thank you 2 for the info, I have spoke with the owner about it and said he would not have a problem with it, so again thank you for the information
Welcome to the OCDO forum and we look forward to hearing more from you in the future.
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Glad you found the info you needed. It would probably be in your best interest to familiarize yourself with our state statutes on the matter. To avoid any unforseen circumstances. I've been boning up the past couple of weeks and don't plan to stop until I can quote them and their codes from memory (but I'll still carry a cheat sheet).
If your employer has no issues, you should be golden! Nice to have that piece of mind on a potentially risky job.
"I never learned anything from a man who agreed with me." - Robert A. Heinlein
Welcome to OCDC Bones glad to have you with us. Hope you find as i have a lot of good people and good info.
"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason
U will not find any statutes governing open carry in ky bc there isn't ne it is a right protected by our state constitution and legislature can't make laws governing it. Once u get read up ull c how good we have it in ky. The state supreme court has ruled no govt. Agency can question ones right to open carry in ky so inform the officer if one stops u for this legal activity about that if he is being smart.
Just wanted to thank you all again for the info. I actuly found a piece of info from the KSP website to print out and stored that in my wallet
This isn't completely accurate information. There are laws against OC in schools and loaded OC in bars. So, the General Assembly can legislate in this area. State agencies do prohibit OC on some public property. Prisons, jails, mental hospitals. The one that comes to mind first is the State Fairgrounds. I've posted several times about 300 KAR 1:041 Section 3 and Section 4. The ability of the State government to legislate OC is greatly restricted and limited by the constitution, but it can be done and has been done. Unfortunately, I fear it will be expanded in the future.
By the way, Richie Farmer is a member of the State Fair Board. I have sent emails to Commissioner Farmer and I spoke to him face to face at the Gun Show in Louisville about this. He claimed he had been sick and unable to answer a lot of emails, weak assed excuse. His assistant took my email address and Farmer promised to investigate this and get back with me. He never did. I suggest you remember this on Election Day. His email is email@example.com if you feel like contacting him. I'm not all together happy with Steve Beshear, but he has not caused any problems for gun owner since he's been in office. I've also contacted his office about the Fairgrounds and they have taken no action. There is an alternative, Phil Moffett. He is very pro gun. I don't know that he has much of a chance, but I know he will get one vote in the primary.
As for the fair grounds, has anyone ever been arrested for violating the no weapons signs? I wonder if their reasoning is that when they are rented out, they fall under the control of the renter, so in effect become "private property" for that duration? I'm working from vague memory here, but wouldn't that be the same reasoning that they tried to use for Thunder Over Louisville and it was shot down by the state? Or is some kind of distinction made because the fairgrounds are an enclosure?
I'll look into it myself and try to open a line of communication with Richie Farmer, not that I expect to make any more progress than you did. Did Steve Beshear's office even contact you back about it?
I've heard Phil Moffett's name mentioned before, I'll have to look into his record and if he is as pro gun as I've heard, he'll get my vote as well and I'll push for his election with my contacts.
Gutshot Caught me again, I didn't think to mention the handful of places that firearms are banned altogether.
Several weeks ago I sent you an email about 300 KAR 1:041 Section 3 and Section 4 that prohibit the possession of firearms in buildings owned or controlled by the State Fairgrounds. I also spoke, face to face, with you at the Gun Show in Louisville in February. Your assistant took my email address and you promised to look into this matter and get back with me. I've never heard anything from you.
300 KAR 1:041 Section 3 and Section 4 violate the Ky. Constitution. The KAR has several similar Regulations that were improperly promulgated with insufficient oversight. I have discussed some of these Regs, with staff at the LRC. They agree that these Regs violate the Constitution and need to be changed. With the assistance of these staff members, I managed to get the Ky. Nature Preserve to change their improper Regs. last year. All that is required is the will of the agencies involved to follow the law.
When I spoke to you in Louisville we were both standing in a Fairgrounds building filled with people carrying guns, so obviously this regulation is arbitrarily enforced at the whim of those in charge. How is a person to know when and where it will be enforced?
You are a member of the Fair Board and this needs to be addressed. The LRC can suggest new language that will get the State Fairground Regulations into compliance with state law and the state Constitution. If you expect the gun owners of Ky. to support you and Senator Williams in the coming election I believe it would be wise to look into this matter and attempt to resolve it. During the recent legislative session there was much discussion of the longstanding practice of citizens carrying guns into the Capitol. The General Assembly decided to leave that policy as it has always been. Is the State Fairgrounds a more sensitive place than the State Capitol? Why are citizens of Ky. asked to surrender their right to defend themselves and their families in order to visit the State Fairgrounds, that their tax money supports? You are in a unique position to make this change. You are a board member and your running mate is the co-chair of the Senate committee on the LRC. I understand you are a busy man, but I would appreciate a reply, even if it is a negative one.
Thank you for your attention to this matter,
Commissioner Farmer will refer this matter to Mr. Harold Workman for his consideration.
Thank you for contacting the Kentucky Department of Agriculture.
Have a great spring day!
Executive Secretary to
Commissioner Richie Farmer
111 Corporate Drive
Frankfort, KY 40601
Harold Workman is President & CEO of the Ky. State Fair Board. I have never been able to get a working phone number or email address for him. I'll work on it some more.