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    stained my 1911

    just purhcased a use springfield 1911A1 and it looked like it hadnt been cleaned in years. barrel was pitch black. so i whipped out my hoppes cleaner, and my bronze brush and went to work. i ended up with a bronze barrel is there anyway to make it silver again and get rid of the bronze stains?

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    the outside of the barrel, or the bore?
    if the outside-try whiping down with a solvent or somethnig. If that dont work-wierd as it might sound, try toothpaste,then wash it off.

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    yeah the outside of the barrel. i tried solvent, didnt do anything lol. ill try the toothpaste method a lil later...it stained a few other parts of the gun too, like the inside of the slide where the silver colored parts are. all turned up bronze color :/ guess its time for a new brush!

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    Ya.might b a good idea lol.
    Not that you'll have all the materials at hand that this guy does- but perhaps some tips on this, and on re-finishing the pistol at some point :

    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu47.htm

    Re-finishing for a 1911:

    pt1
    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu38.htm

    pt2
    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu39.htm

    or parkerizing, should you choose to later. -the carb cleaner tip in this one may help with the stains, also.
    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu52.htm
    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu52.htm

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    the cleaner im actually using is Hoppes Elite Gun Cleaner not the no.9 solvent...but it should do the same job right? would this be the same as using the WD40? im thinking of soaking my barrel with the elite gun cleaner and letting it sit for a while and then wiping it down, and then cleaning with toothpaste...should it remove the "bronze" stains?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvtopiwala View Post
    the cleaner im actually using is Hoppes Elite Gun Cleaner not the no.9 solvent...but it should do the same job right? would this be the same as using the WD40? im thinking of soaking my barrel with the elite gun cleaner and letting it sit for a while and then wiping it down, and then cleaning with toothpaste...should it remove the "bronze" stains?
    Try odorless mineral spirits.

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    like paint thinner?

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    attached is what my barrel looks like

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvtopiwala View Post
    like paint thinner?
    Sort of. Like that, but better. It's a petroleum distillate rather than a tree resin distillate. It's less toxic and has lower volatility. Much more useful than turpentine for detail work, like guns.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_spirits

    I've seen this brand at Home Despot:

    http://www.amazon.com/Klean-Strip-Mi.../dp/B003DL9126

    Edit: It you want something more abrasive than a toothbrush, but still safe, I would recommend brass or bronze wool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvtopiwala View Post
    attached is what my barrel looks like

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    Well, I can honestly say I've never seen that before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvtopiwala View Post
    attached is what my barrel looks like

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    Ouch, yeah, that is odd..and this is after scrubbing, etc?

    Marshaul, would that stuff be good just for general cleaning for matte-stainless? Dont have any issues as yet, but this thread got me thinking of ways to just keep my matte clean and nice..

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    ^^^ the exterior surfaces..

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    yeah all i did was scrub with my bronze brush lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4l View Post
    Marshaul, would that stuff be good just for general cleaning for matte-stainless? Dont have any issues as yet, but this thread got me thinking of ways to just keep my matte clean and nice..
    Sure, I use isopropanol or odorless mineral spirits when I want a complete clean/degrease. They are both great for guns.
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    As for my suggestion of brass or bronze wool:

    My guess is that long-term oxidization of the brush bristles combined with the solvent you used is what caused this deposit. Brand new brass or bronze wool with odorless mineral spirits doesn't leave any residue in my experience, so it shouldn't make things worse.
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    yeah ive had this brush for like 6 months and use it on all my firearms :/

    so u think a new brush and the solvent will remove the old bronze deposit?

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    Doubt it could hurt to try. Let us know how it turns out.

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    will do, heading out now to buy some cleaning supplies

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvtopiwala View Post
    so u think a new brush and the solvent will remove the old bronze deposit?
    Being that the patina is external, I would advise bronze/brass wool over just another brush. Wool is better for scrubbing around a cylinder, whereas a brush is better for scrubbing inside a cylinder.

    http://www.amazon.com/International-...bxgy_sg_text_b

    You can buy the stuff at any marine/boat supply store.
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    Easy-Off oven cleaner. That stuff will strip the anodizing off Calphalon cooking pots, so it shouldn't have any problem getting some discoloration off your stainless barrel. It will strip ANY finish off metals...
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    will it harm the bore or any other metal parts in the gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvtopiwala View Post
    will it harm the bore or any other metal parts in the gun?

    It will strip off ANY finish, except enamel, and maybe DuraCoat.

    If the barrel is stainless, and he doesn't leave it on to long, it shouldn't hurt the bore. I've used it on stainless-steel cookware (cookie sheets and frying pans) with no ill effect. But like I said, it will strop off bluing, parkerizing, anodizing, and most paint finishes...

    But if you wash it off with LOTS of warm, soapy water, and then clean it with regular gun cleaner, it shouldn't be an issue, when contacting other parts...
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    hmmm...the bore doenst have any other coatings that need to stay on there right? lol

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    tried the oven cleaner and let it sit for a few hours, none of the bronze color came off

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    well,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by hvtopiwala View Post
    tried the oven cleaner and let it sit for a few hours, none of the bronze color came off
    you said the barrel had been black, but ill bet the shiny parts were still shiny, huh!
    your barrel was probably black nitrate coated after heat treat, and then finish ground.
    i think your first cleaning bleached out the "black", which is just a dye color, the nitrate is the brown.
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