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    Just joined what I think is a very informational and helpful forum. I see some LEOs are also exited about the OC in Florida.That's great. IL go straight to mi question. How do reciprocity issues play here? and where can we find out about this. Will I be able to go say to Georgia or Alabama w mi CCWL and OC ? And about Constitutional Cary States. When If I visit them, can I OC? Or do I conceal cary only. I hope someone can help in this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David357 View Post
    Just joined what I think is a very informational and helpful forum. I see some LEOs are also exited about the OC in Florida.That's great. IL go straight to mi question. How do reciprocity issues play here? and where can we find out about this. Will I be able to go say to Georgia or Alabama w mi CCWL and OC ? And about Constitutional Cary States. When If I visit them, can I OC? Or do I conceal cary only. I hope someone can help in this issue.
    Welcome to OCDO.

    Reciprocity refers to agreements between states to accept the license/permits of another state as if they were there own. You must obey they laws of the state in which your are actually standing.

    States with whom Florida has reciprocity can be found here

    Constitutional Carry is by definition the right to carry w/o a permit in any way you choose.
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    I believe you are asking about Michigan's Reciprocal States.

    A Michigan concealed pistol licensee who wishes to carry a concealed pistol in another state is responsible for complying with the laws of that state
    Michigan's concealed pistol law expressly recognizes permits issued by other states to its residents. MCL 28.432a. However, non-residents are subject to the Michigan law while carrying a pistol in Michigan, including those restricting where pistols may be carried, the implied consent provision, disclosure to a peace officer when stopped, and carrying while under the influence. A non-resident should acquaint himself or herself with the Michigan law before carrying a concealed pistol in Michigan.

    Similarly, a Michigan concealed pistol licensee who wishes to carry a concealed pistol in another state is responsible for complying with the laws of that state. In an effort to identify which states recognize Michigan issued concealed pistol licenses, each state was contacted by the Attorney General.
    Those that recognize Michigan issued permits are:
    Alabama
    Alaska
    Arizona
    Arkansas
    Colorado
    Delaware
    Florida
    Georgia
    Idaho
    Indiana
    Kansas
    Kentucky
    Louisiana
    Mississippi
    Missouri
    Minnesota
    Montana
    Nebraska
    Nevada
    New Hampshire
    New Mexico
    North Carolina
    North Dakota
    Ohio
    Oklahoma
    Pennsylvania
    South Carolina
    South Dakota
    Tennessee
    Texas
    Utah
    Vermont (does not require carry permits by residents or non residents)
    Virginia
    Washington
    West Virginia
    Wyoming

    Again, anyone traveling in one of these states needs to check their laws, which in many instances are available on that state's website.
    Those states who do not recognize non resident permits are:
    California
    Connecticut
    Hawaii
    Illinois
    Iowa
    Maine
    Maryland
    Massachusetts
    New Jersey
    New York
    Oregon
    Rhode Island
    Wisconsin
    Some states allow for the application for a temporary CCW permit issued by that state or local unit of government. Others exempt law enforcement officers.
    Federal law expressly provides that persons may carry a firearm in their vehicles while traveling through another state provided that the possession of the weapon is legal in both the states of origin and destination and the weapon is unloaded and carried in the trunk of the vehicle or a locked container other than the glove box. See 18 U.S.C. 926a.

    Also most states that allow open carry will allow you to as well, some w/ccw, some have no requirements for such license.
    Last edited by Rick H; 03-27-2011 at 12:51 PM.
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    Also, you must keep in mind that just because your CWL is recognized in another state, it may not allow you the same privileges as a resident of that state might have. For example, Texas recognizes the MI CWL but from what I understand, only resident licenses of Texas may carry in the Texas state house.
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    I think "mi" is a typo for "my" not Michigan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfish View Post
    I think "mi" is a typo for "my" not Michigan.
    No, Michigan. Why?
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    Thank yow much. If you can think of more, that would be grate. It seams like Ill be able to OC in other OC states regardless but I hope this bill goes through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich7553 View Post
    No, Michigan. Why?
    The OP's "mi" is a typo for "my" not "MI"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David357 View Post
    Just joined what I think is a very informational and helpful forum. I see some LEOs are also exited about the OC in Florida.That's great. IL go straight to mi question. How do reciprocity issues play here? and where can we find out about this. Will I be able to go say to Georgia or Alabama w mi CCWL and OC ? And about Constitutional Cary States. When If I visit them, can I OC? Or do I conceal cary only. I hope someone can help in this issue.

    Here is the page you are looking for. I thought you asked for Michigan's the first time
    http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/new...led_carry.html

    Then use this page for the Open Carry issues
    http://opencarry.org/opencarry.html
    Last edited by Rick H; 03-30-2011 at 12:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    The OP's "mi" is a typo for "my" not "MI"...
    Hah! You're probably right. Everyone is running with MI = Michigan! Oh well.
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    sweet guess all my looking for a CC holster will have been unneeded, SWEET

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtim6656 View Post
    sweet guess all my looking for a CC holster will have been unneeded, SWEET
    Yep as far as the last time I read the new law you could carry in your back pocket as the people back home from where I lived did, hanging out and all>>>>NOT RECOMMENDED THOUGH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtim6656 View Post
    sweet guess all my looking for a CC holster will have been unneeded, SWEET
    Quote Originally Posted by Rick H View Post
    Yep as far as the last time I read the new law you could carry in your back pocket as the people back home from where I lived did, hanging out and all>>>>NOT RECOMMENDED THOUGH.
    Some people consider IWB holsters more for CC and belt holsters as being more for OC - I think that is to what Bigtime was referring, not no holster. That's my take anyway.
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