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    Lightbulb OC Meetup!?! Tri Cities Range Cleanup SUNDAY

    ::Changed to Sunday the 3rd 8am to noon!!! I'll probably go tomorrow even if there is a bit o rain...::

    Well guys, there is a 71 year old man making us shooters look bad. He jumped right into cleaning up the Owens Road mess ALL BY HIMSELF.

    http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2011/0...r-peoples.html

    Before I read the Herald yesterday I took a couple of my kids out there for a recon by pickup. Hereís some pictures of the wreckage as it appeared then.

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    I would like to set up an OC/RKBA meetup for next weekend to bring lots of hands and more than a couple pickups to the task at hand. I have called Mr. Mitchell, the hard working 71 year old man, about my (hopefully our) desire to help. Iíve never shot out there but I might someday and I would like it to remain open for the rest of us non-slobs.

    So, 8am to noon on Saturday April 2nd, letís make our presence known here in the Tri Cities in an entirely positive way. Sorry for the short notice but I hate to think of him out there daily. Me and my Boy will be there!

    My plan is to fill our pickup and use our Waste Management dump trip to empty it. I'm also gonna call them this week and see if we can dump free that day if it's range junk. Anyone know people at Griggs and/or Ranch and Home? Maybe they could sponsor some help or airtime since alot of the ammo our there is from their stores...

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    Oh, come on...

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    I just sent you a PM.

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    Wow those pictures are just insane! What kind of lazy bums would go shooting and leave a mess like that? Even when I go shooting out in the boon docks I do my best to cleanup... wow!
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    I'd like to help, but I have to work Saturday. Any possibility of moving this to Sunday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevinWKuska View Post
    Wow those pictures are just insane! What kind of lazy bums would go shooting and leave a mess like that? Even when I go shooting out in the boon docks I do my best to cleanup... wow!
    Lazy messy bums.

    Ya know, it's only a four hour drive from Spanaway... Three if you hurry and miss LEO...
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    Hey, I'm easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by scootter31 View Post
    I'd like to help, but I have to work Saturday. Any possibility of moving this to Sunday?
    Scootter, I will be there tonight if the rain stops. 5-6pm. Gonna actually do a bit of shooting after filling the truck with mess. Just look for the old yellow Ford.

    If you want to come on Sunday you should and I will try to be there as well as your is the only other response I have gotten to this thread. I was actually hoping to push this out a week if that will help others be willing to get involved. Any takers?

    I think it's important that the RKBA folks be willing to stand up and be a positive force in the eyes of the normal folks. The bad press regarding Owens Road covers ALL shooters, including OCers even if we're innocent.
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    Well then, Sunday 8AM - noon. Did I just cause a major downpour Sunday morning?

    Come on folks, get out and do some good. Look at the up side, you will get some exercise and get to meet ME.

    Oh, if we could push this to next Sunday, even better for me.
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    I dont know if I'm going to have Thurs or Friday off. I hauled a trash bag out today, and plan on going back to get another bags worth. This is one of the best places to shoot I have ever seen. Plenty of room for everyone to spread out. I'll post when I find out to see if someone wants to meet up, I have a bunch of 9mm and 22LR to have some fun with.
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    Would love to attend, and I DO have the day off, but other than a street name, I have no idea where this place is. Somebody have a map link, or at least the name of a nearby town so I can google it?

    ...nevermind, I found it. Not sure I want to be up at 3AM on a Sunday though. If only it were closer
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    I'm gonna be out of town this weekend, as Freedom First already knows... I'll do my best to be available the following weekend in event that y'all don't have it all cleaned up already.

    I'll also pass this thread on to a few friends in the area.

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    I'm gonna go out to Owens Rd Thurs, let me know if ya wanna meet up. I was thinking of around noon.
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    amz,

    I'll be out there for sure on Sunday and probably a while tomorrow. I don't work here in town much so it'll be rare that I can make a lunchtime shootfest.

    Be safe!

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    Saturday

    Had a good morning filling the truck with range refuse, shooting and going to the dump. I got to practice live fire drawstroke from my Serpa and did fairly well.

    The wind was pretty lame at 20-30mph the whole time but it was a good time to teach my boy on shooting in a crosswind. He caught right on and was shooting well by the end.

    We discovered a great range tool: old fire extinguisher... At 100 yards you can hear it ring like a bell when you hit it with a .22LR and a 5.56 really makes a whack sound. I'm gonna talk to a customer of mine and see if they have a few old ones I can transform into range toys.

    I met Chuck, the 71 year old guy who has been working on the mess for a couple weeks now, and we had a good talk about the site. More to follow.

    I'll be out tomorrow to grab another pile between 8 and 9. Any help would be great!
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    Thanks to Scootter for showing up and helping this morning!

    We cleaned up another site and then I went back to the site we cleaned up yesterday to shoot there. Jeeze. Some dork brought some junk and shot it up and of course left it a mess... So, me and the girl picked up after them. Lame.

    I took my daughter up to Jump Off Joe to see the entire Tri Cities from above and to get a close up on one of the big windmills. She was thrilled and we had a great time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    Thanks to Scootter for showing up and helping this morning!

    We cleaned up another site and then I went back to the site we cleaned up yesterday to shoot there. Jeeze. Some dork brought some junk and shot it up and of course left it a mess... So, me and the girl picked up after them. Lame.

    I took my daughter up to Jump Off Joe to see the entire Tri Cities from above and to get a close up on one of the big windmills. She was thrilled and we had a great time.
    I dont have much room in my trunk, but I try to take a garbage bag full, away each time I go there. I didnt know you could get right up next to the wind mills. We need to explore out there a little more. It's nice to have such an awesome place to shoot.
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    let me know when the next cleanup is scheduled, sounds like a good community service thing. a_patriot@ymail.com

    PS I just emailed someone who should be in the know.. and if it might mean having a place to shoot, ill consider springing for a roll off if thats OK with the owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capn Camo View Post
    PS I just emailed someone who should be in the know.. and if it might mean having a place to shoot, ill consider springing for a roll off if thats OK with the owner.
    I have no idea what you're talking about.

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    A roll off is a big dumpster. Thanks for the offer! There is a plan forming up slowly for a big sweep later this spring.
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    Heres the reply from someone in a position to know (which aint me...):

    "Kennewick General hospital district is legal owner.

    But no controls. I know of 4 hits and more close calls than combat Zone. I do not want any part of it until there are ranges and "some rules"

    As it is, people shoot across hills ( really little berms) and can't see who or what is on other side.

    Went there one day several years ago. was shooting into a hillside and somebody at 90 degrees was shooting right over me.

    I got out there and haven't been back.

    The liability is on the shooter and the hittee."

    (from someone with combat experience to know how dangerous a "combat zone" is...)

    Anyway, the owner is KGHD. Its bad form, and potentialy illegal to shoot or do anything else there without the owners permission, after all, it is private property. that no one says anything doesnt change the ownership or laws regarding trespass.

    For a mass-cleanup (which apparently is whats needed, a dozen or more people and a day??) it would be necessary to "close" the area so theres no stray fire. I dont want to have to wear a BP vest to clean up trash!!
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    Capn Camo,

    I get where you're coming from. Owens Road isn't my favorite place to shoot either, but it is a place to shoot. In any uncontrolled area we have to practice safe shooting techniques and compensate for the possibility that someone else isn't being as cautious as they should be.

    For me this means using the "lane" at either end of the canyon and parking the truck between myself & and others. Is it a guarantee? No. But good luck getting your safety guaranteed at any range.

    I should also add that I do most of my pistol shooting indoors at PRPC & only venture out to Owens when I want to shoot shotguns and/or rifles as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbpeck View Post
    Capn Camo,

    I get where you're coming from. Owens Road isn't my favorite place to shoot either, but it is a place to shoot. In any uncontrolled area we have to practice safe shooting techniques and compensate for the possibility that someone else isn't being as cautious as they should be.

    For me this means using the "lane" at either end of the canyon and parking the truck between myself & and others. Is it a guarantee? No. But good luck getting your safety guaranteed at any range.

    I should also add that I do most of my pistol shooting indoors at PRPC & only venture out to Owens when I want to shoot shotguns and/or rifles as well.
    The 3 times I've been out there there hasnt been anyone shooting around me, I drove from 397 to Jump off joe rd. Might be different on the weekend during the summer but the most "UNSAFE" thing I could see right now is stepping on something sharp, or catching a ricochet off a rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capn Camo View Post
    Heres the reply from someone in a position to know (which aint me...):

    "Kennewick General hospital district is legal owner.

    ...
    Anyway, the owner is KGHD. Its bad form, and potentialy illegal to shoot or do anything else there without the owners permission, after all, it is private property. that no one says anything doesnt change the ownership or laws regarding trespass.
    The Kennewick General Hospital District - or more correctly the Kennewick Public Hospital District (dba Kennewick General Hospital) is a public hospital, making it a Municipal Corporation under state law. It is not private property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ak56 View Post
    The Kennewick General Hospital District - or more correctly the Kennewick Public Hospital District (dba Kennewick General Hospital) is a public hospital, making it a Municipal Corporation under state law. It is not private property.
    So is it state, city, federal, or what? Public sounds better than private. Is the public hospital private property or are they city owned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    So is it state, city, federal, or what? Public sounds better than private. Is the public hospital private property or are they city owned?
    Association of Washington Public Hospital Districts

    Public hospital districts are community created governmental entities authorized by state law...

    Public hospital districts belong to the Washington state family of special purpose districts and are organized as municipal corporations.

    Public hospital districts are organized and exist as a result of chapter 70.44 of the Revised Code of Washington (RCW). It is this statute that created public hospital districts and fundamentally defines their purpose, operations, powers and limitations.

    ...public hospital district are governed by commissioners who are publicly elected.
    In a nutshell, they are their own government entity, within the state, and not belonging to a particular city, county, etc. They may consist of an entire county, part of a county, or span areas of multiple counties.

    As a government entity, they are public, not private.

    As a municipal corporation, preemption applies.


    Usual disclaimer IANAL, etc. The above links provide a lot of information.
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