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    OC with form 1 supressor

    Ok so I just sent in my form 1 application, to construct a 9mm supressor. So sometime next year when it gets approved,lol, and I can actually build it, could I just holster it on my weapon and go out for a stroll? Mine is only going to be 3.6 inches long and 1 inch diameter, so it will be low profile.
    I have read through the Va. laws concerning supressors, and from what I can tell, is that first, I must have a CHP, which I do, and two is that I can't carry it concealed. Anybody have any more info on this, or have actually done it?
    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
    Ok so I just sent in my form 1 application, to construct a 9mm supressor. So sometime next year when it gets approved,lol, and I can actually build it, could I just holster it on my weapon and go out for a stroll? Mine is only going to be 3.6 inches long and 1 inch diameter, so it will be low profile.
    I have read through the Va. laws concerning supressors, and from what I can tell, is that first, I must have a CHP, which I do, and two is that I can't carry it concealed. Anybody have any more info on this, or have actually done it?
    Thanks in advance.
    Maybe one of theose "just because you can" do it does not mean you should. The same reason I don't carry my super shorty shotgun AOW with 6.5" barrel
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed View Post
    Maybe one of theose "just because you can" do it does not mean you should. The same reason I don't carry my super shorty shotgun AOW with 6.5" barrel
    +1 on what Ed said !

    Where did you read you had to have a CHP to carry a legally registered suppressor?

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    Not for carrying the supressor but the centerfire pistol with a threaded barrel part of the law.

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    Also, I would not go out with it to the mall, or beach,I'm just talking about walking or biking in more secluded areas.
    Although I must admit that going to lobby day, "just because I can", sounds interesting. BUT I value yall's input, or I would not be asking in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
    Not for carrying the supressor but the centerfire pistol with a threaded barrel part of the law.
    That is only for a very small part of Va.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    That is only for a very small part of Va.
    for those without a CHP

    *looks over to AR pistol*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
    Also, I would not go out with it to the mall, or beach,I'm just talking about walking or biking in more secluded areas.
    Although I must admit that going to lobby day, "just because I can", sounds interesting. BUT I value yall's input, or I would not be asking in the first place.
    That's really a decision you have to make.
    My love for large frame, large bore revolvers is common knowledge and I don't carry them for the wow factor, it's what I carry 90% of the time in the sticks where I spend most of my time.

    BUT..I'm considering switching to a smaller frame 9mm in the burbs just to be more subdued and attract less attention.

    Lobby day...who knows. Dejeepers carried his AR off pretty well but he did get a lot of press that could have been harmful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Lobby day...who knows. Dejeepers carried his AR off pretty well but he did get a lot of press that could have been harmful.
    yes indeed. This something you have to take into consideration. my every day carry is not my AR pistol....partly for that reason, also for how cumbersome the ar pistol can be at times.

    I think if you actually needed to draw to defend, your suppressor could cause problems under high anxiety and pressure.

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    I can't wait for the day when suppressors no longer have the stigma that the movies have given them, and instead promote the user as one that is concerned over the hearing of himself and others around him.
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    For real! When I filled out my form 1, in the "reason for making" section, I put "for recreational shooting, and hearing protection".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
    Not for carrying the supressor but the centerfire pistol with a threaded barrel part of the law.
    WARNING, WARNING!!!!
    Talk about supressed open carry (SOC) may lead to the banning of SOC discussions on OCDO. Remember what happened to Long GUn Open Carry!!!
    WARNING, WARNING!!!!

    You are correct Virginia has a stupid assault firearm law for centerfire pistols, rifles and shotguns. threaded centerfire = assault firearm

    You could just use a Sig Mosquito with a threaded barrel (it is only sold in .22LR) and just do the BATFE paper drill for the supressor. No CHP required.
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    Since mine is going to be so short and thin, I am going to build it with the ability to use a wipe, just behind the endcap. So I could still get good sound reduction with a smaller caliber, 1 supressor that will work with any weapon of 9mm or less, and threaded 1/2 28 tpi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundar View Post
    WARNING, WARNING!!!!
    Talk about supressed open carry (SOC) may lead to the banning of SOC discussions on OCDO. Remember what happened to Long GUn Open Carry!!!
    WARNING, WARNING!!!!
    haha, yes. Lame, isnt it? sort of the opposite of what this site is about, hm.

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    prev | next § 18.2-287.4. Carrying loaded firearms in public areas prohibited; penalty.
    It shall be unlawful for any person to carry a loaded (a) semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine that will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock or (b) shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered on or about his person on any public street, road, alley, sidewalk, public right-of-way, or in any public park or any other place of whatever nature that is open to the public in the Cities of Alexandria, Chesapeake, Fairfax, Falls Church, Newport News, Norfolk, Richmond, or Virginia Beach or in the Counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Henrico, Loudoun, or Prince William.

    The provisions of this section shall not apply to law-enforcement officers, licensed security guards, military personnel in the performance of their lawful duties, or any person having a valid concealed handgun permit or to any person actually engaged in lawful hunting or lawful recreational shooting activities at an established shooting range or shooting contest. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
    The exemptions set forth in § 18.2-308 shall apply, mutatis mutandis, to the provisions of this section.



    I see that CHP voids restriction but originally read (a) and (b) together thinking only those localities applied to both. WRONG!

    Where did you read that you couldn't conceal it? I would think that it would make less of a commotion if it was concealed.

    So I guess if I am OC-ing my H&K USP Tactical it will be RAS enough for any police officer to stop me and ask for a CHP! Maybe VCDL can take up this next year and get rid of the dreaded "Assault firearm" clause (or more)!
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    Man I must have mis read that, I went back to the COV and looked, I could have sworn I saw that in there just 2 days ago! I'm not complaining about being wrong, this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    That's really a decision you have to make.
    My love for large frame, large bore revolvers is common knowledge and I don't carry them for the wow factor, it's what I carry 90% of the time in the sticks where I spend most of my time.

    BUT..I'm considering switching to a smaller frame 9mm in the burbs just to be more subdued and attract less attention.

    Lobby day...who knows. Dejeepers carried his AR off pretty well but he did get a lot of press that could have been harmful.
    Your going to carry a 9mm WHAT? You feeling ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdm guy View Post
    Your going to carry a 9mm WHAT? You feeling ok?

    Well I haven't done it yet. I did dig one out of the cabnet though and a .357 and a smaller frame .44.
    I'll have to think about it for a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Well I haven't done it yet. I did dig one out of the cabnet though and a .357 and a smaller frame .44.
    I'll have to think about it for a while
    Time to get out of the burbs. You need to spend more time on the farm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdm guy View Post
    Time to get out of the burbs. You need to spend more time on the farm.
    You're telling me. I have some tobacco plants that are two feet tall and sitting in pots here in the burbs and have another 14000 tobacco seeds in the mail.

    But the thing I hate most about the BURBS ....is:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
    Ok so I just sent in my form 1 application, to construct a 9mm supressor. So sometime next year when it gets approved,lol, and I can actually build it, could I just holster it on my weapon and go out for a stroll? Mine is only going to be 3.6 inches long and 1 inch diameter, so it will be low profile.
    I have read through the Va. laws concerning supressors, and from what I can tell, is that first, I must have a CHP, which I do, and two is that I can't carry it concealed. Anybody have any more info on this, or have actually done it?
    Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ODA 226 View Post
    Why for?
    What are you asking? Because inquiring minds want to know.

    Why submit a form? ...Because it is the "current" law.
    Why build it? ...Because he can save $400 at least over buying one.
    Why carry it? ...Because my daughters hearing is worth saving. (often I am around kids)
    Why conceal it? ...Because OC-ing it may cause panic in certain hoplophobes.

    Why ask why? ...Why not?
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    great philosopher: "Why?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJEEPER View Post
    great philosopher: "Why?"
    The answer:

    "Because".

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