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    SAFETY WARNING! Check the wear on your holsters!!!

    {NOT ZACK991 BELOW.)Editor-in-chief’s note: We’d like to thank the anonymous individual who came forward with this important information and allowed us to get it out to everyone here at ITS Tactical.

    “What the hell was that?!?” she said. It took me a half a second to realize that my gun had just gone off…on my hip…in its holster. My wife and I had just finished breakfast at our favorite café and got into the car.

    Me being the passenger, I rotated my torso to the left to fasten my seatbelt like I always do. When I straightened again, my Glock 19 discharged, blowing a 9mm hole through my pants, underwear, the leather seat and bottom of the car’s door frame.

    The bullet nicked my hip, but the wound is nothing a bandage couldn’t cover. So what went wrong? Guns never go “Bang” all by themselves.

    After ensuring I wasn’t hemorrhaging profusely and didn’t have to make a dash for the hospital, I stayed seated in the car as my wife came around to my door and opened it. I undid my belt and slid the Galco JAK202 Slide Belt Holster, with the gun still in it, off my belt. Why it went off was immediately apparent.






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    So, what is the proposed solution?

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    Stick to kydex holsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    So, what is the proposed solution?
    PMCS your gear as mush as possible, I do a quick check before I put my gear on and do a though check every time I clean my gun or when i get bored.
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    -I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you screw with me, I'll kill you all.
    -Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.
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    Looks to me like the only safety issue is the owner not checking his gear.

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    The solution? Pay attention!

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    That darn holster looks like it has been crammed empty into a drawer between his rolled up socks for quite a time. Normal wear, maybe, but long past the point that I would have already given it to the dog for a chew toy or made something else out of the pieces parts.

    Buy quality equipment, take care of it and it will take good care of you.
    Last but not least, know when to replace it.

    This was not the fault of the holster - it was user poor judgment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    So, what is the proposed solution?
    Don't be an idiot.

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    That guy is lucky the bullet only grazed him. If it was slightly more angled it could have shot into his femmoral artery and killed him in 15 minutes... wow....
    "So there I was between a rock and a hard place, when it hit me... What am I doing on this side of the rock?"

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    I can see why you'd have a problem. The holster is a piece of junk! Yup! It wasn't made properly in the first place. Guys, you go out and spend $5-6 hundred for a weapon, then buy a $25 holster! Go figger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    So, what is the proposed solution?
    Don't put a Glock in your holster!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevinWKuska View Post
    That guy is lucky the bullet only grazed him. If it was slightly more angled it could have shot into his femmoral artery and killed him in 15 minutes... wow....
    you can bleed out from a severed femoral artery in 15 seconds, not minutes, but yeah he's lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTG-05 View Post
    Don't be an idiot.
    I'm not being an idiot, which I will apparently have to explain--in just a moment. In the meantime, try not to be an idiot yourself by not mouthing off at others until you understand.

    What we have in the OP is an alarmist warning: "Check the Wear on Your Holsters!" And, then an excerpt of a story. That contains no explanation of how the holster got that way.

    It looks to me as though the victim improperly seated his weapon--meaning into a holster with an obstruction. Got little to do with holster wear.

    I asked for proposed solution because none that made sense was in sight. It seems to me that a better warning would be to be careful holstering striker-fired guns, and make sure the holster isn't obstructed. Or, more precisely, develop a safe method for holstering a striker-fired gun that takes into account that you cannot rest your thumb on the hammer to sense hammmer movement during holstering.

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    try trimming a cut out for the trigger if you are going to still ues it or soak the holster in water then oil the gun real well, remove the holster from water, place in gun and keep squeezing leather around gun to form the shape of gun till completly dry you mite even want to set it in the sunlight of a window or in a oven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    I'm not being an idiot, which I will apparently have to explain--in just a moment. In the meantime, try not to be an idiot yourself by not mouthing off at others until you understand.

    What we have in the OP is an alarmist warning: "Check the Wear on Your Holsters!" And, then an excerpt of a story. That contains no explanation of how the holster got that way.

    It looks to me as though the victim improperly seated his weapon--meaning into a holster with an obstruction. Got little to do with holster wear.

    I asked for proposed solution because none that made sense was in sight. It seems to me that a better warning would be to be careful holstering striker-fired guns, and make sure the holster isn't obstructed. Or, more precisely, develop a safe method for holstering a striker-fired gun that takes into account that you cannot rest your thumb on the hammer to sense hammmer movement during holstering.
    I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to the so-called victim who had an AD in the story.

    He was an idiot for allowing the holster to get into that condition, especially with a Glock.

    In any event, I wasn't referring to you or implying that you were an idiot. Sorry if it came across that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTG-05 View Post
    I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to the so-called victim who had an AD in the story.

    He was an idiot for allowing the holster to get into that condition, especially with a Glock.

    In any event, I wasn't referring to you or implying that you were an idiot. Sorry if it came across that way.
    Not to worry FTG - after the sun goes down, Citizen's fangs protrude some.

    Felt his "bite" once or twice myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeak View Post
    I can see why you'd have a problem. The holster is a piece of junk! Yup! It wasn't made properly in the first place. Guys, you go out and spend $5-6 hundred for a weapon, then buy a $25 holster! Go figger!
    Try checking your facts before you post! This was a Galco holster, not some offbrand. The holster retails for right at $70, so it isn't a cheap holster..

    The fact is that guns can go off without a finger on the trigger, and all carry gear and weapons need to be checked reguarly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTG-05 View Post
    SNIP In any event, I wasn't referring to you or implying that you were an idiot. Sorry if it came across that way.
    Oh, I see. OK. Thanks for clearing it up.

    Now, where's that Grapesnot? I've got some fangs to sink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    Oh, I see. OK. Thanks for clearing it up.

    Now, where's that Grapesnot? I've got some fangs to sink.
    Psst - right behind you.




    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Originally Posted by Loneviking
    Try checking your facts before you post! This was a Galco holster, not some offbrand. The holster retails for right at $70, so it isn't a cheap holster..
    The fact is that guns can go off without a finger on the trigger, and all carry gear and weapons need to be checked reguarly.

    Well, just pardon me! The fact still remains the same no matter who made the holster; it is junk. I could see the Galco stamp on it. I've been making holsters and saddles for over 50 years, so I know what I'm talking about. As for $70, someone got took.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loneviking View Post
    Try checking your facts before you post! This was a Galco holster, not some offbrand. The holster retails for right at $70, so it isn't a cheap holster..
    Sarcasm and infighting benefit no one.

    If the holster wasn't junk, it would reside in that drawer in my bench now.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Psst - right behind you.
    AH-HA! I'm being e-stalked! Where's the mods!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    AH-HA! I'm being e-stalked! Where's the mods!?!
    It tain't stalkin' when someone responds to their name slithering off your tongue.

    =Citizen; Now, where's that Grapesnot? I've got some fangs to sink
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    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    It tain't stalkin' when someone responds to their name slithering off your tongue.
    When its only six minutes after my post, I'm not the monitor with the slithery tongue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    When its only six minutes after my post, I'm not the monitor with the slithery tongue!
    Slow down d@mnit - I'm getting out of breath.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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