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    Why carry extra mags?

    I was just wondering why a lot of people who OC often carry 2 spare mags? I know some people who carry Taurus Pt92's (17+1) and still feel the need for 2 more 17 round mags. I always thought that 17 hollow points would be more than enough to stop someone, or even multiple people.

    Nothing wrong with it, just wondering about peoples reasoning for it?
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    i carry a glock 22 with 15 round mags and i still carry 2 spares and a BUG...the spare mags are incase i have a mag failure or a double feed and then its just best to change mags..plus i carry 2 spares on duty so i feel alil under powered you can say if im not equalled off duty since itll take alot longer for Leo to get there if the SHTF..but thats just me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixalis View Post
    I was just wondering why a lot of people who OC often carry 2 spare mags? I know some people who carry Taurus Pt92's (17+1) and still feel the need for 2 more 17 round mags. I always thought that 17 hallow-points would be more than enough to stop someone, or even multiple people.

    Nothing wrong with it, just wondering about peoples reasoning for it?
    Well if you take into account stress and everything that that entails, you may only hit with one out of every 5, 6, or 7 shots. Now say there are more than one. Maybe it is sustained gun fight. Just better to be prepared IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by protect our rights View Post
    Well if you take into account stress and everything that that entails, you may only hit with one out of every 5, 6, or 7 shots. Now say there are more than one. Maybe it is sustained gun fight. Just better to be prepared IMO.
    i agree...plus if you have two or three whacked out druggies comin after you, it probably wont be a one two or even three stop shot{s} since their so jacked up and if you miss a couple of them shots you butts really gona pucker when that slide locks back and your all out of ammo without any spares..its always best to be prepared for the worst case scenario IMO

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    Best I'm aware, nobody who ever came through a gunfight in more or less one piece was ever heard to remark afterwards that they'd been carrying too much ammo...

    Seriously, as others have mentioned, the spare ammo isn't really about a total number of rounds, it's about recovery after clearing a malfunction if it occurs. Ever have the kind of malf that required you to vigorously RIP the magazine out of the well? Even under range conditions (on the clock so it was being done at high speed if not high stress) I've managed to drop that magazine at some point in the action. Imagine adding real-life stress and dropping that magazine into a snowbank, down a storm drain, under the car you ducked behind for cover, etc.

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    I carry two extra mags because

    I carried two extra mags on my left hip to offset some of the weight from the holster on my right hip.

    When I conceal carry I think it balances out my hip profile, equally wide on both sides not lopsided. Or at least that's what I tell myself.

    Plus 1 for everything mentioned by the other posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chap View Post
    I carried two extra mags on my left hip to offset some of the weight from the holster on my right hip.

    When I conceal carry I think it balances out my hip profile, equally wide on both sides not lopsided. Or at least that's what I tell myself.

    Plus 1 for everything mentioned by the other posts.

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    Very good point, I was thinking about carrying mine in a thigh rig to try and ease some of the pressure on my hip from carrying a full sized handgun around all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chap View Post
    I carried two extra mags on my left hip to offset some of the weight from the holster on my right hip.
    Weight balance is the only reason I carry spare mags. Sustained gun fire? Call me arrogant but the likelihood of such combat for the average citizen is so strikingly low as to be a non-issue. If I can't take care of business with the 13 rounds I have I'm getting out of town with the quickness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlurker View Post
    Weight balance is the only reason I carry spare mags. Sustained gun fire? Call me arrogant but the likelihood of such combat for the average citizen is so strikingly low as to be a non-issue. If I can't take care of business with the 13 rounds I have I'm getting out of town with the quickness.
    Your right it IS low. Some would argue that getting in ANY incident that requires a gun is extremely low. I would LOVE to see how many of those 13 rounds you could put on center body mass in high stress. Prepare for the worst. Ever heard of that? You would rather carry for the simple reason of weight distribution, then attack the thought of carrying for a possible extended gun fight with a felon meaning you harm?... I question your reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by protect our rights View Post
    Prepare for the worst. Ever heard of that? You would rather carry for the simple reason of weight distribution, then attack the thought of carrying for a possible extended gun fight with a felon meaning you harm?... I question your reasoning.
    Yes I've heard of that, which is why they're spare mags and not random dead weight (better to have it and not need it and such). The fact that I could use them is secondary to the ability to balance out the weight. It's a situation that occurs far less frequently than the chance of ever needing a gun, so I see little actual need (for me) to worry/fantasize about an extended gun fight. It all goes back to the type of people most felons are, cowards.

    Ultimately the point is if I'm needing to change mags there are bigger problems, and my focus will be put towards "flight" rather than fighting back. The tools at my disposal will be used accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlurker View Post
    Yes I've heard of that, which is why they're spare mags and not random dead weight (better to have it and not need it and such). The fact that I could use them is secondary to the ability to balance out the weight. It's a situation that occurs far less frequently than the chance of ever needing a gun, so I see little actual need (for me) to worry/fantasize about an extended gun fight. It all goes back to the type of people most felons are, cowards.

    Ultimately the point is if I'm needing to change mags there are bigger problems, and my focus will be put towards "flight" rather than fighting back. The tools at my disposal will be used accordingly.
    The hope for the best and prepare for the worst statement is the best reason I can think of.

    Between the rare restaurant shootings such as Luby's and the terrorists shooting up the Taj Mahal in Mumbai, at least one or two extra mags just seem to make sense.

    I do not have a link but remember a story about the off duty Leo that helped stop the shooter in the Utah mall. He said that because he was in civies, he was not carrying as much ammo as when he was on duty and almost ran out. It may have been a live interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixalis View Post
    I was just wondering why a lot of people who OC often carry 2 spare mags? I know some people who carry Taurus Pt92's (17+1) and still feel the need for 2 more 17 round mags. I always thought that 17 hallow-points would be more than enough to stop someone, or even multiple people.

    Nothing wrong with it, just wondering about peoples reasoning for it?
    Your fighting for you and your loved ones life. You fire round one at the two attackers with knives. You get a double feed. What is your clearance drill? Do you think you will live the next five seconds? Just wondering.
    Take at least a basic combat pistol course and let your eyes be opened my friend. Plastic knives hurt like hell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mas49.56 View Post
    Your fighting for you and your loved ones life. You fire round one at the two attackers with knives. You get a double feed. What is your clearance drill? Do you think you will live the next five seconds? Just wondering.
    Take at least a basic combat pistol course and let your eyes be opened my friend. Plastic knives hurt like hell!
    Taking out your mag and clearing it, then putting your mag back in, would take the same time (if not less) than clearing the weapon and putting in a new mag.

    I don't see how this has anything to do with carrying spare mags..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixalis View Post
    Taking out your mag and clearing it, then putting your mag back in, would take the same time (if not less) than clearing the weapon and putting in a new mag.

    I don't see how this has anything to do with carrying spare mags..lol
    Good luck in a high stress situation with running, holding your mag and rack tap assess reload with the same hand, you're a better man than I am. And if it's your mag causing the malfunctions? I'm not riding you, but if your going through the effort to carry a pistol it's no great effort to have at least one spare IMHO. I want you to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mas49.56 View Post
    Good luck in a high stress situation with running, holding your mag and rack tap assess reload with the same hand, you're a better man than I am. And if it's your mag causing the malfunctions? I'm not riding you, but if your going through the effort to carry a pistol it's no great effort to have at least one spare IMHO. I want you to win.
    Ahh okay now that makes sense.
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    ..no such thing as too much ammo

    And, however remote, a Mumbai-type situation could happen anytime/any place...I wouldnt want to come up short in that scenario...

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlurker View Post
    Yes I've heard of that, which is why they're spare mags and not random dead weight (better to have it and not need it and such). The fact that I could use them is secondary to the ability to balance out the weight. It's a situation that occurs far less frequently than the chance of ever needing a gun, so I see little actual need (for me) to worry/fantasize about an extended gun fight. It all goes back to the type of people most felons are, cowards.

    Ultimately the point is if I'm needing to change mags there are bigger problems, and my focus will be put towards "flight" rather than fighting back. The tools at my disposal will be used accordingly.
    and if you CAN't get away, and run out of ammo? Beg for mercy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscottie View Post
    The hope for the best and prepare for the worst statement is the best reason I can think of.
    Between the rare restaurant shootings such as Luby's and the terrorists shooting up the Taj Mahal in Mumbai, at least one or two extra mags just seem to make sense.
    I do not have a link but remember a story about the off duty Leo that helped stop the shooter in the Utah mall. He said that because he was in civies, he was not carrying as much ammo as when he was on duty and almost ran out. It may have been a live interview.
    yea i remember seeing that video..it was around Valentines day and he was eatin at the mall with his wife..but yea he ran out of ammo cuz he was off duty and obviously didnt feel the need to carry spares for the rare situation that unfolded in front of him..
    as others have said... hope for the best, prepare for the worst.. cuz if i was defending my family or others id feel like crap if i ran outa ammo cuz i didnt feel the need to bring a spare mag or two and lives were changed for the worse and i may have been able to make a difference...its a rare situation..but thats why you"hopefully" train for the worst so your better prepared for it... after being trained by former LEO and SWAT officers, i highly recommend training to anyone carrying, especially after seeing how bad alot of people shoot at 7 yards at my local range, its kinda scary thinkin that they might be carrying outside when they hit just as much outside the sillouette as they do the BG on targets at 7yards

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    Quote Originally Posted by protect our rights View Post
    and if you CAN't get away, and run out of ammo? Beg for mercy?
    If I'm running out of ammo, even if I were to use the two loaded spare mags that I carry strictly for balance, there is little chance any extra ammo will be of benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlurker View Post
    If I'm running out of ammo, even if I were to use the two loaded spare mags that I carry strictly for balance, there is little chance any extra ammo will be of benefit.
    Well I was simply saying that if you CAN'T get away those two extra mags will help. You said you would rather run if you were in the situation where you were having to reload. I was saying that what if you couldn't get away (ie: trapped, cut off from exit, mass shooter ect) You'd be happy you had those extra mags.

    Not sure if you would want to use them though, you might be off balance when your getting away....
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    Quote Originally Posted by protect our rights View Post
    Not sure if you would want to use them though, you might be off balance when your getting away....
    Funny guy,

    That's a pretty strong assertion saying that extra ammo will help, especially when you consider the unique nature of self defense situations. Extra ammo might help but like I said, there could very well be bigger problems to worry about that can't be solved by merely reloading.

    We could play "what-if" games until we're blue in the face, but to argue that carrying spare ammo strictly for those "just in case" situations of reloading is bordering on paranoid IMO.

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    its not bein paranoid, its bein prepared for the worst. if you think about it, why are you carryin a gun in the first place, "just incase" right, just incase that rare situation ever happenes where you need it in a self defense or defense of others situation.. if the SHTF i wana try to be at the best advantage i can get over the BGs..cuz you know a casual thug wont be carryin spare mags, but sumone hell bent on mass casualties, like the incident in tucson and other cities alike, them poeple carry multiple mags and/or weapons..but thats just me
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    Everybody has their own comfort level.

    Most of the time I carry 9+1 in the gun & one spare 9rd magazine. I feel that this is enough for almost any imaginable situation. It permits me the ability to perform a tactical reload or a full reload, and the ability to replace a malfunctioning magazine with a fresh one. That being said, my carry gun has never jammed, so the likelihood of a malfunction happening when I need it most is extremely unlikely. I do agree with the "prepare for the worst" crowd, though.

    Sure, I could carry a second spare mag, or a third... for that matter I could carry a messenger bag full of spare mags loaded with HP, AP & Incendiary ammo, but I don't. We all draw the line somewhere.

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