dfox
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I've been looking to purchase two Saiga 12's. Can't find them.
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BATF to ban tactical shotguns?
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Venator
Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter
Heres the link to the actual study. Interesting read. Plinking is not a sport.
There is talk that the "sporting purpose" is unconstitutional after the Heller decision.
http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/012611-study-on-importality-of-certain-shotguns.pdf
This whole Gun Control act needs to be destroyed.
There is talk that the "sporting purpose" is unconstitutional after the Heller decision.
http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/012611-study-on-importality-of-certain-shotguns.pdf
This whole Gun Control act needs to be destroyed.
smellslikemichigan
Campaign Veteran
what a waste of my tax money :banghead:
the second amendment renders any argument about "sporting purposes" null and void. at one point they reference "low light". is it not ok for me to defend myself at night in a low light situation?
the second amendment renders any argument about "sporting purposes" null and void. at one point they reference "low light". is it not ok for me to defend myself at night in a low light situation?
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Michigander
Regular Member
I'm hoping that we'll end up with US makers building from scratch S-12's. As quality control goes, Russia is pretty horrible. I helped with one S-12 conversion, and I'm impressed by the design and oh dear God are they fun to shoot, but sheesh they need some higher standards of production.
If we could get them made in the USA, coming standard with goodies like straight in and out magazine changes including with drums, suppressors, last shot bolt hold open and interchangeable barrels, with no need to ever consider converting anything, it'd be well worth it to spend 1,200 plus on them, and they'd sell a lot. For such an efficient system which should cost so little to make, you'd think that folks like Tromix would have been building their own complete guns for a long time now.
StingMP9
Regular Member
Not sure if you can order them but I think that Red Jacket Firearms builds their own Saiga shotguns. They are the shop that is on History channel "Sons of Guns".
www.redjacketfirearms.com
www.redjacketfirearms.com
They're available here but not exactly "popularly priced.
Unfortunately what happens is that those that cannot afford the higher price are eliminated from the market. It is gun control through economics.
Michigander
Regular Member
That link says that you can deduct 550 off the price of their guns if you send your own in to be modified. This implies that they are using Russian made guns. It is also indicated by the fact that they don't sell AOW versions.