stainless1911
Banned
Ok, but I was reading the transcripts, and on a couple of occasions 237 and or schools came up, I was waiting for him to bring up the exemption for CPL holders, and wondered why he didn't.
Thats because the answers from Werner consisted of "DUH,WHAT?" and the judge overlooked his lack of knowledge,where Deans facts were disregarded outright! It was beating a dead horse in it's simplest form! I'm sure that day in court could have been skipped altogether except for getting it on the record for the next day in court.The hope of upholding the law was nill once Werner started talking and the judge went along.I'm praying and expecting truth to eventualy win! It always does! CARRY ON MEN!Ok, but I was reading the transcripts, and on a couple of occasions 237 and or schools came up, I was waiting for him to bring up the exemption for CPL holders, and wondered why he didn't.
I read the complete transcript & it is clear this is a Kangaroo trial with a judge who doesn't give a damn about what the law says. I hope after a judges review panel goes through her actions in this case, that she is removed from the bench and barred from practicing law in MI FOREVER! See folks this is how fascists work, if we don't like the laws passed by the elected officials of the "little people" we just find a corrupt judge and under-mine the people's law and replace it with our own....he he he he....how dare the serfs expect us to obey their laws!
I don't know about you but I'm mad as hell & I'm not going to take this crap any more!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGIY5Vyj4YM
I'll tell you what; after Lance said under testimony that he was afraid patrons may attack me or his OWN STAFF may attack me if I have a firearm on my hip, and after hearing that they have security at the library of all places (seriously, who the hell has security at a library?) you better believe I'll never be going there without my firearm ever again.
They are all worried about a spontaneous discharge that might hurt someone. Think about it this way, have you ever looked down a tube, a drinking straw, Christmas paper, aluminum foil tube, whatever. How much of the room can you see through that tube? Not much, that's about the same chance you have of being struck by an un-aimed. bullet
But his point,insane as it was,is he didn't want us to defend ourselves against the insane,unarmed people and employees, he expects to attack us! I cannot comprehend that kind of thinking! Thats waaayyy out there in LaLa Land! What kind of drugs is he taking?yes, he made the case for our need for self defense in his library quit nicely, didn't he?
Some of their security guards are barely out of their teens.
Same with some of our members...
What does that matter?
No, this is incorrect regarding schools. MCL 750.237a(4) doesn't apply to CPL holders, so CPL holders can legally open carry in a school and on school property. Don't feel bad, though, the judge doesn't appear to understand this point, either. :banghead:So the biggest issues (That I read..) is if the Library is PART of school property or not. If so, all weapons are prohibited.
The definition doesn't specify ownership or control, but use, so IMO and IANAL, even though the school district owns the land an building, the library fails to meet the definition of "school property" as defined. The library isn't used for either the blue or red purposes, highlighted above.(c) “School property” means a building, playing field, or property used for school purposes to impart instruction to children or used for functions and events sponsored by a school, except a building used primarily for adult education or college extension courses.
No, this is incorrect regarding schools. MCL 750.237a(4) doesn't apply to CPL holders, so CPL holders can legally open carry in a school and on school property. Don't feel bad, though, the judge doesn't appear to understand this point, either. :banghead: