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    Open Carry Rally ideas

    I am posting up an idea of having an "Open Carry" meet Rally in the Olathe area. Like to get banners typed up and have just a bunch of us meet up at a good location. Have one similiar to others where we meet and eat, talk about ideas. I know some people might not like this idea, but if were to make a better hit in politics with the right its a good idea. Advertisement for the meet will be figured out in someway, I am just throwing this idea out. I personally think we need to have a regular open carry meet to where we get media attention. Yes there is a chance it can get ugly with protestors and such but that goes with the right.

    I am in no means wanting this to be a violent or aggressive event, just a bunch of us regular people who believe in the right of open carry and the fact that gun permits are just a money collector. I do personally have my own permit to conceal, but that doesn't change my opinion at all. Like to make this thread a sticky and get some ideas rolling and a rough plan.

    Names Denton by the way for everyone interested.


    Like to make sure we represent OPENCARRY.ORG if we can get this event some how planned out! Not sure on everyone's take on this but I personally think that it's a good idea.
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    Am I safely assuming that people are becoming quiet on the whole idea? Common guys I know we all want open carry to be fully legal without twisted laws that make it impossible! We need to fight to get rid of these stipulations and requirements for open carry. Everything is dollar signs to politicians for rights.
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    we here in Wisconsin have had alot of success with OC picnics, and OC coffee meets at StarBucks, and Culvers. Something for you to consider in your planning!

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    yeah I read up and watched some past videos on "Open Carry" meets that were successful. I'm not having much luck on getting people here in Kansas interested in the idea. I'm willing to do all the planning and get it all setup. Just figure if us Kansas residents want "Open Carry" we need to be more aggressive on our displaying of our rights. I have been writing up letters to the AG and getting them ready to mail them to him. Also posting up on power line polls printed papers displaying to fight the right to "Open Carry".
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    How about Wichita? I tried to do an open carry protest in downtown Wichita and only had two people show up with about a dozen concealed carry people hiding in the surrounding cafes... I coordinated the event to protest Wichita's ordinance ban on "loaded" open carry, which essentially is an unconstitutional ordinance...

    I will be back home visiting the first weekend in June if folks are interested in meeting at Starbucks or something...

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    One of the most sucessful methods we here in Virginia have found is to "Just Do It". Or, stated differently, "If you announce it, they will come".

    Do your research on the rules for use of a place, and the absence of any laws/policies against firearms, then simply put up the information and sit back and wait for the day of the event.

    If you are contacted by the press and asked how many people you expect will attend, remember the saying about under-advertising and over-delivering. If all you are sure will be there is you and your two buddies, but hope that maybe 25 will show up, tell the press you are expecting a very small number of people - maybe only one or two - for this first event. Then, if 50 or 75 or 100 show up you have instant sucess, and if only you and your two buddies are there you do not wind up with egg on your face for saying more people would be there.

    My question to you is why are you looking for media attention via a rally? Have you considered that folks open carrying as part of their daily routine with nobody noticing anything out of the ordinary or calling the cops is perhaps the greatest sign of sucess in convincing the public that OC is not "dangerous" or "attention-grabbing" or some sort of "political protest"? Get-togethers for coffee and conversation/fellowship or meals and conversation/fellowship are great ways of getting folks together and letting the general public see that you OC-ers are ordinary, law-abiding folks just like them.

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    2A Rally in Wa. state

    Heres the Rally Myself and some others from Open Carry Wa.organized last week on our capital grounds.We had one of our senators as keynote speaker ,she was also carrying.Clint Didier formally of the Washington Redskins.Everything was free.Note we even had a color guard.If you need some help let me know.We had 3 to 4hundred in attendance.Live singers.Prizes for the kids,free t-shirts.Check out the short video in the second link of Kerry Hooks singing the national anthem behind the color guard.She is awesome.

    http://photobucket.com/2ndAmendmentRally

    http://www.southsoundpatriots.com/2ndamendment.html
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    I would spend a few months building a core group, before you even worry about the media. Otherwise, you could have the media show up with 2 people there. That's not exactly a positive showing. If you do end up holding a gathering in the KC area, post it on the Missouri board also. I'd be more than happy to show, and I imagine you'd get several more. We do bicker like siblings sometimes on the boards, but we're all very supportive in person.

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    We're doing the same thing in CT. I've seen posts from other states where people meet and great at a local resturant or coffee shop and hang out and talk. Maybe make some new friends. Some invite local media to cover also which helps our cause also.

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    Open Carry b-b-q?

    DW, I live not too far from Olathe and would be very interested in organizing such an event! I also am certain that several of my friends would also be interested in participating, including military servicemen and law enforcement officials. If this is still something you are "aiming" to do, har har, we might exchange contact info and see when and where would be a good place to assemble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Q1984a1776 View Post
    DW, I live not too far from Olathe and would be very interested in organizing such an event! I also am certain that several of my friends would also be interested in participating, including military servicemen and law enforcement officials. If this is still something you are "aiming" to do, har har, we might exchange contact info and see when and where would be a good place to assemble.


    Yes I am still interested in organizing an event rally, Im still figuring on when and where and appropriate times that are best.
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    Let me know when/where and I will fly out for the event and try to drum up sponsorship from firearm connections...

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    awesome! I have been looking into this for a while its just been difficult figuring location that is better or best for this event. As far as advertisement goes, I think we can either all wear opencarry.org apparel or make our own. Any ideas to help make this event better just post up!
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    I'll be up in the area sometime in the next 6 weeks. I haven't decided exactly when yet, but if it's while I'm there I'll come by.

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    Its been kind of weird and odd trying to find a place to have this rally, I been getting alot of no answers to open areas from the city of olathe. I went to city hall to verify some locations and got no on all responses! I would first ask about the particular area and the office clerk would tell me "oh yeah you can use it just as long as it does not cause an issue to the public" then I get asked.....what kind of rally is this, I tell the clerk its an 2nd Amen. Open Carry Rally, RIGHT as soon as I speak those words I get this answer. "Oh from our schedule calender there is suppose to be construction work going on near there, we dont want that kind of Rally effecting the publics "SAFETY". Maybe Im not cushioning the wording enough but I seem to be getting alot of "No". Anyone here have ideas on giving me some help on this will be greatly appreciated!

    Just PM me or reply to this thread on ideas or maybe what I can do different to get better results!


    Oh and Im by no means speaking of this rally in a tone or wording it so it sounds dangerous or by any means NOT safe. Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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    still no luck on any good areas as I am getting alot of negative feed back from city officials and just from city hall! Still going to keep this going until it happens and then it might turn easier to have a open carry rally. Yes I do know that Kansas doesn't really have much issues with OC but this will help other states out and such with the idea of OC.
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    Maybe you could try asking about the things they have used to disqualify your request first before telling them what kind of rally. Things like, if there will be any construction going on at during that time period.

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    Open Carry meeting

    I'm at Fort Riley, If you're able to give me a time, date, and location I will definitely join you at an OC meeting up in Overland Park.

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    I'll come

    I am in KCK, and would be happy to make he cross town drive to go to a rally with you. If the city is giving you a hard time, just ask everyone to carry unloaded. The city may not have a law against loaded open carry, but they CAN"T have a law against unloaded open carry. The police here think that thinking about a gun is a reason to arrest, so I would love to help get your ball rolling, then maybe it will roll north a bit.
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    Has there been an location or date set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWCook
    We need to fight to get rid of these stipulations and requirements for open carry.
    ? Can you post a link to the KS statutes about restrictions?

    Quote Originally Posted by DWCook
    ... trying to find a place to have this rally, I been getting alot of no answers to open areas from the city of olathe. I went to city hall ... the office clerk would tell me "oh yeah you can use it just as long as it does not cause an issue to the public" then I get asked what kind of rally is this, I tell the clerk its an 2nd Amen. Open Carry Rally, RIGHT as soon as I speak those words I get this answer. "Oh from our schedule calender there is suppose to be construction work going on near there, we dont want that kind of Rally effecting the publics "SAFETY".
    Next time, take a recorder. Get the hypocrite on video. Help her move along to a different job.
    A little public embarrasment does wonders. Or even start by meeting with her boss, or the city attorney.
    Maybe take along a undercover reporter (to both meetings) as another witness w/ another recorder.

    And yes, start off with "we'd like to use this area on this date, are there any conflicts of any kind, any construction scheduled, ANYTHING that might interfere?".

    Besides, what on Earth would nearby construction have to do with "public safety" of people going to the park? If the park was going to be closed, I think she would have said that up front.

    I'd also suggest saying it's some friends getting together, or a civil rights interest group, both of which are completely true but without the emotional baggage of 2A issues. I've used the description "civil rights supporters" a couple times when initially discussing a group meal @ a restaurant.

    Is it legal to use a city park w/o reserving it? Just show up & set up @ a shelter, occupy all the picnic tables w/ your decorations or tablecloths or whatever. (Yes, you run the risk of being booted by someone who did reserve, unless you find a non-reservable place.)
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    LOL the city of olathe is a joke and they will lie cheat and steal to get there way, I'm glad I moved out of there,

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    Don't worry guys I haven't forgotten this meet, my schedule has opened up a bit more so this should work out fairly well. Start throwing out some good ideas for the meet as in food items, what days work for most of you folks. Going to try and slam this meet before the weather goes too far south. Input on what everyone would like to follow up on as far as maybe go do some shooting at the bullet hole off of Shawnee Mission Parkway and Robinson? The question of using a city park without reservation, that I am not sure of.

    Want to make sure this meet has a good turn for everyone!
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    Speaking of coffee...I have not had a good cup of joe in months!!! How about we get some folks just for a get together at one of the local Star Bucks? Still planning on making the rally meet happen so don't worry. Anyone have any suggestions I'm pretty open around the weekdays for morning coffee or hell even afternoon coffee!
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    Considering the new AG opinion, i think now the deck is cleared to organize some nice friendly open carry picnics.

    Start small in a park where there is no local restriction on open carry so the issue of preemption gets mentioned in the news as making local rules a non-issue - plan for Spring, say late march?.

    Then organize an event in a park - say late April - where the locality DOES have some restrictions and serve notice on the city by way of press release that there will be an open carry rally at their park in celebration of the AG Opinion declaring their policy preempted.

    Good luck and let me and John know how we can help, e.g., with press releases, etc.

    Some localities may have rules requiring notice and permit to hold an event of more than X people - others will not. If their is no need for a permit to hold the picnic, then don't stir things up by asking for one!

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