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    Home invasion plans

    Although I open carry inside my house, the possibility does exist where I could be "capured".
    Some suggestions for easily accesible gun locations. I would suggest these in the front rooms as that will probably be the first place of encounter.
    1. Under the center of the couch, easy chair, etc. on the floor but far enough under that not seen easily.
    If knocked down gun is easily reached.
    2. secured under dining table or coffee table.
    3. placed in planter with plastic ornamental plants.

    Any other ideas?

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    Where other's don't look....

    Inside a closet. Mounted above the door jam.
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    slightly OT

    I can reload in ANY room of my house. I also have guns in multiple rooms. Pillow cases are your friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    Inside a closet. Mounted above the door jam.
    Drill a powerful magnet to the bottom of the table/chair/whatever... The metal slide will just allow it to hang there....

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    I have designed a rough draft and made a rough version of a free hanging shelf that has a secret compartment inside. The one I made it opens on top my next one and better looking one will have a hidden button and a bottom that falls open.

    This way you can hide hand guns in any wall that has room for a small decorative shelf.
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    Having been the victom of an attempted home invasion the only thing that really works is to have a firearm on you. The other lesson I learned was one 6 round mag in the gun is not enough keep a spare and keep a spare gun readily accesable in each room. I was comfortable with a .380 until TSHTF now I am a big fan of 10mm, .45, 357, 12 gauge #4 buck etc there is no substitute for firepower. I never ever only have the mag that is in my firearm most of the time I have 2 spare mags.

    I did not have to shoot, I got lucky the cops showed just before the door gave in but just barely. OH yeah strong doors are a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan View Post
    Having been the victom of an attempted home invasion the only thing that really works is to have a firearm on you. The other lesson I learned was one 6 round mag in the gun is not enough keep a spare and keep a spare gun readily accesable in each room. I was comfortable with a .380 until TSHTF now I am a big fan of 10mm, .45, 357, 12 gauge #4 buck etc there is no substitute for firepower. I never ever only have the mag that is in my firearm most of the time I have 2 spare mags.

    I did not have to shoot, I got lucky the cops showed just before the door gave in but just barely. OH yeah strong doors are a good thing.
    Glad everything turned out OK.

    And yes Strong doors are essential and there are very simple things you can do to make them stronger too if you are unsure about your door. 1/4 dowel can work wonders on the hinge side, and replacing at least one small screw in each hinge (also make sure your dead bolt and latch have them) with 4" screws that go into the framing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    Although I open carry inside my house, the possibility does exist where I could be "capured".
    Some suggestions for easily accesible gun locations. I would suggest these in the front rooms as that will probably be the first place of encounter.
    1. Under the center of the couch, easy chair, etc. on the floor but far enough under that not seen easily.
    If knocked down gun is easily reached.
    2. secured under dining table or coffee table.
    3. placed in planter with plastic ornamental plants.

    Any other ideas?
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    I still have children in the house and my daughter has her friends over. If I dont have my firearm on me, then I have it locked up. When I can afford it, I do want to purchase a biometric safe for quicker access in the dark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
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    I still have childen in the house and my daughter has her friends over. If I dont have my firearm on me, then I have it locked up. When I can afford it, I do want to purchase a biometric safe for quicker access in the dark.
    If you are sleeping and it is close to you in your room why have the safe?

    I am thinking of getting one for my other half though she isn't so comfortable not having hers contained. And I am not that comfortable with her not having quick access to hers.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    If you are sleeping and it is close to you in your room why have the safe?

    I am thinking of getting one for my other half though she isn't so comfortable not having hers contained. And I am not that comfortable with her not having quick access to hers.
    I have it in my safe because of evils, my wife has to fight from within.
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    If you do stash guns around the house, remember the potential problems if there are ever kids around. They're good at finding stuff. Not in that habit myself, but I never thought I'd have kids in the house either till a friend's were running all over the place for the last few weeks.

    In my case, NO ONE ever comes to my house unannounced. If I hear a knock/shuffling/etc when I'm not expecting someone, I either go for the handgun in the bedroom or the rifle in the safe, depending on where I am in the house. Nice thing about long gravel driveways is it's real hard to sneak up on a place
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    home security

    Not only do I carry my .45 and two extra mags till I go to bed. But I also have A model 500 mossberg with extended mag tube and pistol grip next to bed. The paper holder in the bathroom is on a swivel panel that holds A makarov . And attached under my desk in the office I have a Bakail side by side 12 gauge coach gun pointed at the door.
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    Metalhead47 wrote ...If you do stash guns around the house, remember the potential problems if there are ever kids around. They're good at finding stuff. Not in that habit myself, but I never thought I'd have kids in the house either till a friend's were running all over the place for the last few weeks.

    You are correct. I find it difficult to think about children being around as my youngest grandchild is 16, a gifted young lady going on 35. Very mature for her age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    Metalhead47 wrote ...If you do stash guns around the house, remember the potential problems if there are ever kids around. They're good at finding stuff. Not in that habit myself, but I never thought I'd have kids in the house either till a friend's were running all over the place for the last few weeks.

    You are correct. I find it difficult to think about children being around as my youngest grandchild is 16, a gifted young lady going on 35. Very mature for her age.
    So did I... until the 3 anklebiter's of my wife's friend ended up running around here most weekends while she helped her out... point being, even if you think you'll NEVER EVER EVER have kids, or already have & gone, they have a nasty habit of finding a way in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    So did I... until the 3 anklebiter's of my wife's friend ended up running around here most weekends while she helped her out... point being, even if you think you'll NEVER EVER EVER have kids, or already have & gone, they have a nasty habit of finding a way in
    With the wife in her 60's and I in the 70's, those chances are very small at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    I have it in my safe not because of evils, my wife has to fight from within.
    My Bad Amzbrady, I apologize, we discussed this before and I totally spaced on it.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Glad everything turned out OK.

    And yes Strong doors are essential and there are very simple things you can do to make them stronger too if you are unsure about your door. 1/4 dowel can work wonders on the hinge side, and replacing at least one small screw in each hinge (also make sure your dead bolt and latch have them) with 4" screws that go into the framing.
    Good tips on the FRONT door. Everyone seems to put all their money into fortifying the front door and then leaves the $5.95 door knob/lock on the back door that has lots of glass in it. What about that Patio Door that breaks into a million pieces when poked with a simple center punch and has a lock that is about as strong as a suitcase latch?

    Don't forget to provide adequate security on ALL doors. If that's done, there will be some time to respond to a home invasion. That is of course, providing that you don't just swing the front door open without checking to see who's there first.

    As for hiding guns all over the house, the chances are that you will be in that ONE place that you didn't stash one when you need it.

    Reinforce your "perimeter" and have a "safe room" with weapons and phone to retreat to is probably the best plan.
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    I've been considering one of these:



    They make a freestanding one for the mantle of whatever also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    With the wife in her 60's and I in the 70's, those chances are very small at best.
    They need not, nescessarily, be yours is the point

    Just something to bare in mind.

    Myself, I'd like to see more tips for all us renters out there who don't have the option of making our castle a fortress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    If you do stash guns around the house, remember the potential problems if there are ever kids around. They're good at finding stuff. Not in that habit myself, but I never thought I'd have kids in the house either till a friend's were running all over the place for the last few weeks.

    In my case, NO ONE ever comes to my house unannounced. If I hear a knock/shuffling/etc when I'm not expecting someone, I either go for the handgun in the bedroom or the rifle in the safe, depending on where I am in the house. Nice thing about long gravel driveways is it's real hard to sneak up on a place
    I also have a long gravel driveway, your correct that it is great. Dogs work rather well too. When the grandkids come over weapons are secured, when adults come over most weapons are secured depanding on who they are for example when Deros & M1Gnr comes over I dont secure anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    With the wife in her 60's and I in the 70's, those chances are very small at best.
    I should add...my friends that visit do not have small children. My friends with small children do not visit because they live a long way off, thankfully. (due to the chldren)

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    Living where we rarely ever lock the door (only when we are going to be gone for more than a day, we do live 20 miles out of a small town) and having 13 grandchildren (from 1 to 21) that may show up at any time, I guess We are a bit looser than you all.

    First line of defence is a Doberman named Grette and a 1/2 mile long driveway.

    second...

    12 ga riotgun and .22 rifle upstairs. Prefered load is #2 bird shot (lead goose loads, can't use them for anything else any more, back up is slugs). Downstairs, two handguns of different calibers, one auto, one wheel, and my varment rifle with 100 grain hollow points @ 3800fpm. The rifle may be slow to bring to ready, but it really packs a punch.

    Never had to move them...yet...except to target practice or go hunting. All weapons are secured above the ankle biter reach level. All others have been trained...you want to shoot grandma and grandpa's guns...Ok, we can do that, but it will be done in a safe and organized manner with grandma or grandpa present. Otherwise, you do not touch.

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    Split Level

    My house is a split level, you have to come up a flight of stairs from the front door. At the top of my stairs I've hung an old drop leg on the rails that hold my BUG and my full size is on my knight stand. My kids are 13 and 16, they know how to clear a gun. They are so used to my guns they could care less about them anymore. They know they are real and not a toy to be played with.

    Also watch the Outdoor Channel Wed nights. You might find replay of the Best Defense episode where they show how to reinforce the doors in your house.
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    On the subject of children and methods to have the firearm available, but reasonably safe.

    www.safetybullet.com

    Wife and I are using this item to make the gun usable for self defense, we have small children in the home and they are not able to rack the slide, so it will allow the gun to be available. The trick we are having to train is to rack the slide as part of our range time and we will have to discuss it with the range we use, they may frown on a loose round. This is less time than fumbling in the dark with a gun safe or lock box, in our opinion.

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    looks like a good thing, but.....not for me. The last thing I want is for my handgun to be disabled because I had a brain freeze at a critical time. Yeah, I know train, train.

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