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    Armed Home Intruder Fatally Wounded After Brandishing a Handgun

    I just received an email about this incident. According to this the victim was a 30 yr old female
    The victim, who has a concealed weapons permit
    and yet the victim had a record like this
    The 30-year-old female was previously arrested 2 times for Aggravated Battery, Possession of Marijuana, 4 Warrants and Disturbing the Peace.
    Can you actually own a gun let alone get a concealed permit in La. with a record like this?





    Members of the New Orleans Police Department are investigating the apparent shooting death of an unidentified male who was fatally shot by a 30-year-old female after he entered her home brandishing a handgun. The offense occurred at approximately 7:00 P.M., inside of a home in the 1700 block of
    Cambronne Street
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    According to investigators, the victim entered her home with her 3 children. At some point in time, the suspect entered the home and produced a handgun. The victim, who has a concealed weapons permit was armed, and shot the suspects multiple times to the body. The victim and her children were not injured in the incident.

    Emergency Medical Paramedics transported the suspect to a local hospital where he later died.

    Detectives recovered the suspect and victimís handguns and additionally recovered a second handgun from the victimís residence.

    The 30-year-old female was previously arrested 2 times for Aggravated Battery, Possession of Marijuana, 4 Warrants and Disturbing the Peace.

    The investigation is ongoing and at this time detectives are classifying the incident as justifiable and the District Attorney Office will review the investigation.

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    Why would an ARREST record be used to deprive someone of life, liberty or property? An arrest is only one part of someone's right to due process. Arrest does NOT equal convviction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georg jetson View Post
    Why would an ARREST record be used to deprive someone of life, liberty or property? An arrest is only one part of someone's right to due process. Arrest does NOT equal convviction.
    Your absolutely right about the "arrest" part George. I should have worded it better. If these "arrests" had led to convictions would some of them keep a person from getting a concealed permit and or prevent a person from even owning a fire arm in La?

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    The news article is from an "authorized journalist" linking gun permits to alleged drug use and other assorted criminal activities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smn View Post
    The news article is from an "authorized journalist" linking gun permits to alleged drug use and other assorted criminal activities.
    This information came right from the NOPD.>>>>>> The New Orleans Police Department Ė Public Information Office

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    Quote Originally Posted by smn View Post
    The news article is from an "authorized journalist" linking gun permits to alleged drug use and other assorted criminal activities.
    Here is the story from nola.com, no mention of any criminal activity by the victim.


    Woman shoots man after he pulls gun on her and her children in their Carrollton-area home

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...r_he_pull.html

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    Detectives recovered the suspect and victim’s handguns and additionally recovered a second handgun from the victim’s residence.
    "Recovered" a second handgun? Was it lost? Or did the reporter just mis-spell "seized"?

    On what basis would the PD seize all guns belonging to the victim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    "Recovered" a second handgun? Was it lost? Or did the reporter just mis-spell "seized"?

    On what basis would the PD seize all guns belonging to the victim?
    The article isn't clear to whom the second gun belonged... Perhaps it was the bad guy's...

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    I'm so used to news stories using "victim" for "assailant who got shot" that I had a hard time reading this at first.

    Although I agree - why should the PD seize the victim's other gun, the one not used to defend herself? I can barely see them keeping that one for a few days, to confirm her story, but she's just shown that she needs to be able to defend herself & her kids. Why leave her defenseless???
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    I use to live around that area.
    There's a lot of dope heads out there

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    I spoke with Gary Flot on the phone about her having a permit and the arrest record. He told me the computer didn't show she had been convicted.
    I would like to know the rest of that story about her permit, if it was a CHP or a parish permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    I'm so used to news stories using "victim" for "assailant who got shot" that I had a hard time reading this at first.

    Although I agree - why should the PD seize the victim's other gun, the one not used to defend herself? I can barely see them keeping that one for a few days, to confirm her story, but she's just shown that she needs to be able to defend herself & her kids. Why leave her defenseless???
    Because they feel that doing so puts them in control?

    I think there might be a heightened risk to even a few days; if the victim is not only disarmed but publicly known to be disarmed wouldn't that be an ideal time for the assailant's family to come after her, if so inclined? Now that they can't sue, I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seigi View Post
    Now that they can't sue, I mean.
    Are you referring to this statute?

    http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=107252

    2800.10. Immunity from liability for injuries sustained while committing a felony offense

    A. No person shall be liable for damages for injury, death, or loss sustained by a perpetrator of a felony offense during the commission of the offense or while fleeing the scene of the offense.

    B. The provisions of this Section shall apply regardless of whether the injury, death, or loss was caused by an intentional or unintentional act or omission or a condition of property or a building. However, the provisions of this Section shall not apply if injury to or death of a perpetrator results from an intentional act involving the use of excessive force.

    C. For purposes of this Section "damages" includes all general and special damages which may be recoverable for personal injury, death, or loss of or damage to property, including those otherwise recoverable in a survival or wrongful death action.

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    My plan...
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