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    Let Kind Prove He Desires the NRA "A" Rating

    If you live in his district, contact him to be a sponsor. Heck, contact him even if you don't, he wants to be governor. Wisconsin will soon have concealed carry so don't accept "it doesn't apply to Wisconsin residents."

    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Fe...d.aspx?id=6573
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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

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    Is this the same bill that requires you to provide ID upon request?
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    Speaking of the nra.

    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6575


    Wisconsin Right to Carry: The Time Is Now

    Friday, April 08, 2011

    As recently reported, the NRA is actively working to ensure the effort to finally adopt a meaningful Right to Carry law in the Badger State is successful. NRA-ILA along with WI FORCE, the NRA’s State Association, are actively recruiting legislative supporters and assisting in the final development of the bills.


    Leading up to the legislative action, it is essential that NRA members contact their legislators and continue to educate their fellow citizens regarding the importance of Right to Carry and the facts associated with it. To assist in this cause, the NRA will send you timely alerts to provide you with information on our efforts as well as things you can do to help ensure passage of this vital legislation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    Is this the same bill that requires you to provide ID upon request?
    Hummm, you are a police officer in Florida and you stop someone from Wisconsin who says they are armed. What is the detainee required to provide now? Anyone? I don't know. I have photo ID (drivers license, passport, Utah carry permit) on me whenever I travel out of state. Depending on the circumstances, any of these may be required to be provided to officials. I believe in most states, concealed carry is considered a privilege.

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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
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    I've sent and received email to/from Ron Kind. From my experience just with email, I wouldn't believe him on a bet! He will pick certain words and phrases appropriate for the moment. He has a mighty long way to go to prove to me he's honest and has my well being in mind.
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    [QUOTE=Flipper;1505105]Hummm, you are a police officer in Florida and you stop someone from Wisconsin who says they are armed. What is the detainee required to provide now? Anyone? I don't know. I have photo ID (drivers license, passport, Utah carry permit) on me whenever I travel out of state. Depending on the circumstances, any of these may be required to be provided to officials. I believe in most states, concealed carry is considered a privilege.

    You may be in handcuffs if firearm is not unloaded and properly encased, Florida does not recognize a CCW permit from Utah issued to a WI resident.

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    [QUOTE=WD57;1506155]
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper View Post
    Hummm, you are a police officer in Florida and you stop someone from Wisconsin who says they are armed. What is the detainee required to provide now? Anyone? I don't know. I have photo ID (drivers license, passport, Utah carry permit) on me whenever I travel out of state. Depending on the circumstances, any of these may be required to be provided to officials. I believe in most states, concealed carry is considered a privilege.

    You may be in handcuffs if firearm is not unloaded and properly encased, Florida does not recognize a CCW permit from Utah issued to a WI resident.
    What if I had a permit from a state Florida recognizes? Does Flordia law require "show id" if the detainee said he or she was carrying concealed? The point I am trying to make is that a requirement of showing of ID while armed as required in the proposed federal law is not unusual. Wisconsin may be unsual in that ID cannot be required when carrying (openly) absent other circumstances.
    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

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    [QUOTE=Flipper;1506244]
    Quote Originally Posted by WD57 View Post

    What if I had a permit from a state Florida recognizes? ....
    You would have to be a resident of the state that issued the permit.
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    I just got my Florida and Utah permit. I was told by the instructor that you present your CCW non resident permit card and show them your one of the good guys. That's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WD57 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper View Post
    Hummm, you are a police officer in Florida and you stop someone from Wisconsin who says they are armed. What is the detainee required to provide now? Anyone? I don't know. I have photo ID (drivers license, passport, Utah carry permit) on me whenever I travel out of state. Depending on the circumstances, any of these may be required to be provided to officials. I believe in most states, concealed carry is considered a privilege.
    You may be in handcuffs if firearm is not unloaded and properly encased, Florida does not recognize a CCW permit from Utah issued to a WI resident.
    And just how would they know which state someone is a resident of? For example, I have a UT driver's license and CWP but yet I live in Oklahoma and until recently was a resident of Alaska. Oh and my UT CWP has my old UT address on it from when I lived there (same as my dl).

    Now granted this crazy situation is due to the fact that I'm military, but it doesn't change the fact that they can't really tell where someone is a resident of just from the supplied licenses.

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