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    Daytrip to Oregon (w/no OR CPL) What do I need to know?

    I searched the Oregon forum a bit, but it didn't have a covenient FAQ section like the WA forum does (thanks Bill!) and the information I was getting was partial. I'm driving down with my wife and some of our friends to Astoria & Seaside tomorrow. What do I need to know? I'd like to carry, obviously.

    Thanks in-advance!

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    Where exactly are you going? OC is legal except in certain 'banned' cities.
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    Here's the little I know for Oregon.....

    A CHL DOES NOT AUTHORIZE YOU TO CARRY A FIREARM IN ANY PLACE THAT IS POSTED IN OREGON

    An Oregon Appeals Court decision has found that your car is now considered a "public place." The ruling means that possessing a loaded firearm in a vehicle may be considered a crime if the locality in which you are traveling has a ban on open loaded carry.

    Astoria - 5.010(A) No carry in park, loaded or not

    Off-limits to non-licensed persons:
    -Public Schools
    -Public buildings
    Hospital, Capitol building, College/
    University, City Hall, etc

    Oregon OC Pamphlet: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/at...4&d=1280899231

    Applying for a Clatsop County CHL: http://www.co.clatsop.or.us/default....d=168&deptid=5
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    My understanding of Oregon law (IANAL) is that you cannot legally carry in the greater Portland/Beaverton/Tigard metro area with a loaded magazine let alone a loaded firearm that is openly carried. I mean you could open carry but the firearm better be unloaded (without an Oregon CHL) along with the magazine (no bullets in the mag sort of thing) in the greater Portland Metro area. IIRC, this is the only region in OR that has this sort of restriction, everywhere else you can open carry as you see fit (loaded or otherwise) save for private business posing firearm restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlurker View Post
    My understanding of Oregon law (IANAL) is that you cannot legally carry in the greater Portland/Beaverton/Tigard metro area with a loaded magazine
    That exceeds their legal authority under OR's preemption law. I'm hoping for the day it's overturned, even though I now have an OR CHL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    Where exactly are you going? OC is legal except in certain 'banned' cities.

    What a stupid state. What happened, did they smudge some california on themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    What a stupid state. What happened, did they smudge some california on themselves?
    They're just closer to Kali, it's inevitable. Look on the bright side, they serve as a buffer between the PRK & us, or we'd have the same goofy liberal laws too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    What a stupid state. What happened, did they smudge some california on themselves?
    It's where all the Liberals that were to Liberal for Washington went.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlurker View Post
    My understanding of Oregon law (IANAL) is that you cannot legally carry in the greater Portland/Beaverton/Tigard metro area with a loaded magazine let alone a loaded firearm that is openly carried. I mean you could open carry but the firearm better be unloaded (without an Oregon CHL) along with the magazine (no bullets in the mag sort of thing) in the greater Portland Metro area. IIRC, this is the only region in OR that has this sort of restriction, everywhere else you can open carry as you see fit (loaded or otherwise) save for private business posing firearm restrictions.
    Newport is also one but he is not going down quite that far.
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    Great Day in OR.

    Spent the day, as planned in Astoria and Seaside. Did not carry at the Astoria Column (due to the park ordinance), but OC'd everywhere else. No issues, no inquiries. Uneventful day. Oh, and if you get to Seaside, eat at Norma's Diner and get the salmon fish & chips. FANTASTIC!

    2 Pics below are the wife and I at the Lewis & Clark Trail -ending at the beach in Seaside, and me shaking the hand of one of the taffy shop owners (notice the G19 in exposed IWB on my belt).
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    Great to hear that you had a great time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G20-IWB24/7 View Post
    Spent the day, as planned in Astoria and Seaside. Did not carry at the Astoria Column (due to the park ordinance), but OC'd everywhere else. No issues, no inquiries. Uneventful day. Oh, and if you get to Seaside, eat at Norma's Diner and get the salmon fish & chips. FANTASTIC!

    2 Pics below are the wife and I at the Lewis & Clark Trail -ending at the beach in Seaside, and me shaking the hand of one of the taffy shop owners (notice the G19 in exposed IWB on my belt).
    Man that's alotta taffy

    But I think with a setup like that no one noticed, it's *almost* concealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    Man that's alotta taffy

    But I think with a setup like that no one noticed, it's *almost* concealed.
    Our friends that were with us aren't exactly gun-people, so I was trying to keep as low of a profile as I could. Next time I'll sport the Kramer-bound Sig P220ST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    But I think with a setup like that no one noticed, it's *almost* concealed.
    By coincidence I just had a discussion with an LEO in Washington state and he said that IWB carry is considered "concealed carry" by definition, even though the grip or more of the gun shows. Have no idea about Oregon, but just FYI/FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br1911 View Post
    By coincidence I just had a discussion with an LEO in Washington state and he said that IWB carry is considered "concealed carry" by definition, even though the grip or more of the gun shows. Have no idea about Oregon, but just FYI/FWIW.
    First, welcome to OCDO.

    Second, the LEO you spoke with is wrong. Ask him to produce an RCW that describes this method and defines it as 'concealed carry'. I will wait.........he won't find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    First, welcome to OCDO.

    Second, the LEO you spoke with is wrong. Ask him to produce an RCW that describes this method and defines it as 'concealed carry'. I will wait.........he won't find it.
    Drat beat me to it. Welcome Br1911. Do some reading around here and you'll find that LEOs are rarely the best sources for what is, and is not, lawful.
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    In the Level 3 Safariland holsters used by most LEO's the only portion of the gun I can see is the grip. The exact same portion of the gun is exposed as when I'm Open-carrying IWB. And leather basketweave in the shape of a gun, does not count as a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G20-IWB24/7 View Post
    I searched the Oregon forum a bit, but it didn't have a covenient FAQ section like the WA forum does (thanks Bill!)

    Just an FYI, I am working with some folks down in Oregon to create a "Oregon FAQ." In the mean time check out this FAQ and other info from the fine folks at OFF (Oregon Firearms Federation).

    FAQ: http://www.oregonfirearms.org/faq/
    Oregon Gun Laws: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/166.html
    Guns in Schools: http://www.oregonfirearms.org/news/2...6gunsinps.html
    Portland Airport terminal/drive/parking: Legal to carry with a CPL as of Aug 2008
    Notify officer: No
    Schools: yes
    state parks/national parks/WMA/national forests: yes
    rest areas: yes
    Taverns: yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by G20-IWB24/7 View Post
    Spent the day, as planned in Astoria and Seaside. Did not carry at the Astoria Column (due to the park ordinance), but OC'd everywhere else. No issues, no inquiries. Uneventful day. Oh, and if you get to Seaside, eat at Norma's Diner and get the salmon fish & chips. FANTASTIC!

    2 Pics below are the wife and I at the Lewis & Clark Trail -ending at the beach in Seaside, and me shaking the hand of one of the taffy shop owners (notice the G19 in exposed IWB on my belt).
    OMG I remember that statue and the taffy guy! Such familiar sights
    Glad you had a good time down there!

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    Besides the restricted cities, can you open carry loaded in your vehicle, without an Oregon license/permit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron1124 View Post
    Besides the restricted cities, can you open carry loaded in your vehicle, without an Oregon license/permit?
    Correct. The CPL req. for loaded vehicle carry doesn't exist the same as it does here in WA.

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