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    Illinois General Assembly to Pass HB0148 - Family and Personal Protection Act

    Illinois General Assembly to Pass HB0148 - Family and Personal Protection (Shall-Issue Concealed Carry) Act!!
    by ICarry.org

    The bill has NOT been called to a full house vote yet, but the subject of this email really is something you could read in the newspaper this month!! Concealed Carry has a real chance to pass NOW. But we need everybody reading this email to act NOW.

    Quick summary of progress:

    1. Illinois House Bill 0148 has passed out of committee and is waiting to be called to a full vote on the house floor.
    2. The bill nearly has the 71 votes needed to override a veto - if Gov. Quinn does veto a bill that goes to his desk.
    3. The Illinois Sheriff's Association has click here concealed carry by unanimous vote
    4. The Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police has officially supported concealed carry.
    5. The Chicago Police Lieutenants Association has officially supported (you must be logged-in to ICarry.org with your user account to view this link) concealed carry.
    6. The Chicago Police Sergeants Association has officially supported concealed carry.
    7. The Illinois Farm Bureau has resolved to support concealed carry legislation in Illinois.
    8. The US Supreme Court has affirmed what we already knew - the right to keep AND bear a firearm is a fundamental right. This makes Illinois' laws that completely prohibit bearing arms unconstitutional!!!
    9. Multiple "open carry" events were held on private property in Illinois in 2010. 2011 will bring even more!!
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    Lets hope the Doyle holdovers that infest the Wisconsin LRB don't look at this for "model" language.
    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lFundingR1.png

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    I like this language....

    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper View Post
    Lets hope the Doyle holdovers that infest the Wisconsin LRB don't look at this for "model" language.
    I like this language:
    HB0148 Engrossed - 17 - LRB097 02774 RLC 42796 b

    16 (c) Any owner, business or commercial lessee, manager of a
    17 private business enterprise, or any other organization,
    18 entity, or person that prohibits persons holding a permit for
    19 concealed firearms from carrying concealed firearms on the
    20 premises shall be civilly liable for any injury from a criminal
    21 act upon a person holding a permit for carrying a concealed
    22 firearm who was prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm on
    23 the premises.
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    That's good stuff, - especially with Blains having stores there - but they went nuts with requirements to get a permit.
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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lFundingR1.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegran View Post
    I like this language:
    Unfortunately, that language will not be in the final version of the bill. It was removed so the business organizations would not oppose the bill.

    It would have been a better provision if the language was worded to provide a liability immunity for businesses that allow defensive arms as opposed to statutory liability if they do not.

    The version of HB0148 posted on the ILGA website is not the final version. The final version will most likely have a library ban and a few tweaks involving live fire qualification required for renewal. Some of that was required to get the chiefs on board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockman View Post
    Unfortunately, that language will not be in the final version of the bill. It was removed so the business organizations would not oppose the bill....
    If the ILGA website doesn't have the current version, where can it be found?
    Dave
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    Fight for "Stand Your Ground " legislation!

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    "These so-called 'public safety' laws only put decent law-abiding citizens at a dangerous disadvantage when it comes to their personal safety, and I for one am glad that this decades-long era of defective thinking on gun issues is over..."

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    Following is the status calendar of HBO 148 There is no record of an amendment to remove the words Dave Gran posted. The only amendment to date 3/31 concerns carry in libraries. The third reading was scheduled 3/31 but no post has been made on the result of the reading. I am not familiar with the Illinois General Assembly process but I would expect that at such a late stage of the game any removal of language would have to be in the form of an amendment and subsequent floor vote. The next session of the assembly is Aprill 11 so perhaps more info may be forthcoming.

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    Date Chamber Action
    1/13/2011 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Brandon W. Phelps
    1/18/2011 House First Reading
    1/18/2011 House Referred to Rules Committee
    1/20/2011 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Daniel V. Beiser
    1/21/2011 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Dan Reitz
    2/8/2011 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Patrick J. Verschoore
    2/8/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Lisa M. Dugan
    2/8/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. John E. Bradley
    2/8/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Thomas Holbrook
    2/8/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Richard Morthland
    2/8/2011 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. David Reis
    2/8/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Jil Tracy
    2/8/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Norine Hammond
    2/8/2011 House Assigned to Agriculture & Conservation Committee
    2/9/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Keith P. Sommer
    2/9/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. John D. Cavaletto
    2/15/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Michael Unes
    2/15/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Pam Roth
    2/15/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Chad Hays
    2/15/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Roger L. Eddy
    2/16/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Wayne Rosenthal
    2/17/2011 House Remove Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Dan Reitz
    2/17/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Dan Reitz
    2/17/2011 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Michael Unes
    2/17/2011 House Removed Co-Sponsor Rep. Michael Unes
    2/17/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Adam Brown
    2/17/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Mike Bost
    2/22/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Robert W. Pritchard
    2/22/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Rich Brauer
    2/22/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Jason Barickman
    2/22/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Jim Sacia
    2/22/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Randy Ramey, Jr.
    2/23/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Joe Sosnowski
    2/24/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Jim Watson
    2/24/2011 House Remove Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. David Reis
    2/24/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. David Reis
    2/24/2011 House Remove Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Patrick J. Verschoore
    2/24/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Patrick J. Verschoore
    2/24/2011 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. John E. Bradley
    2/24/2011 House Removed Co-Sponsor Rep. John E. Bradley
    2/24/2011 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Bill Mitchell
    2/24/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Michael W. Tryon
    2/24/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. JoAnn D. Osmond
    3/2/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Dave Winters
    3/2/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Linda Chapa LaVia
    3/2/2011 House Remove Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Bill Mitchell
    3/2/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Bill Mitchell
    3/2/2011 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. David Reis
    3/2/2011 House Removed Co-Sponsor Rep. David Reis
    3/2/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Dan Brady
    3/3/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Chapin Rose
    3/8/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. David R. Leitch
    3/8/2011 House Do Pass / Short Debate Agriculture & Conservation Committee; 012-002-000
    3/9/2011 House Placed on Calendar 2nd Reading - Short Debate
    3/9/2011 House Fiscal Note Requested by Rep. Harry Osterman
    3/9/2011 House Balanced Budget Note Requested by Rep. Harry Osterman
    3/9/2011 House Home Rule Note Requested by Rep. Harry Osterman
    3/9/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Dwight Kay
    3/9/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Jerry L. Mitchell
    3/14/2011 House Home Rule Note Filed
    3/16/2011 House Fiscal Note Filed
    3/16/2011 House Balanced Budget Note Filed
    3/22/2011 House House Floor Amendment No. 1 Filed with Clerk by Rep. Brandon W. Phelps
    3/22/2011 House House Floor Amendment No. 1 Referred to Rules Committee
    3/24/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Donald L. Moffitt
    3/28/2011 House House Floor Amendment No. 1 Rules Refers to Agriculture & Conservation Committee
    3/30/2011 House House Floor Amendment No. 1 Recommends Be Adopted Agriculture & Conservation Committee; 011-000-000
    3/31/2011 House Second Reading - Short Debate
    3/31/2011 House House Floor Amendment No. 1 Adopted by Voice Vote
    3/31/2011 House Placed on Calendar Order of 3rd Reading - Short Debate
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    Good for the flatlanders, but I have to wonder why WE still have no bill yet?
    In God I trust. Everyone else needs to keep your hands where I can see them.

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    When is Wisconsin going to get a carry bill?

    http://legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/data/SJR-1.pdf

    According to the legislative calendar for 2011 there are three times that non-budget bills are scheduled to be sent to the governor. March 24, Aug 4, Dec 8. March 24 has already passed with no action on a carry bill. Aug 4 will include bills passed by both houses of the legislature between Mar 24 and July 29. The next bills sent to the governor for signing on Dec 4 will be those non-budget bills passed between July 29 and Nov 3.

    The earliest we can expect to have a governor signed carry bill is Aug 4. If the republicans hold to their promises to pass a bill this year it could be as late as Dec 8 before one hits the governor's desk. I would guess it will be Aug 4. It will probably be mid May before we see any drafts.

    I have been in this "carry" fight since 2003. A couple more months is a walk in the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegran View Post
    If the ILGA website doesn't have the current version, where can it be found?
    So much for transparency right?

    I do not believe the bill will change substantially from the version w/amendments passed, but if the sponsor allows the bill for a floor vote then you know the verbiage of the bill listed on the site is the bill voted upon. Assuming no further amendments are adopted which will require another reading. If the bill is not allowed by the sponsor, there may be further work required on the language. Either way signals the bills support that day is not favorable for passage. There are very few up or down votes in the house where the outcome is not already known. This just might be one of them.

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    One thing to remember about HB0148 is that the bill contains full preemption of local control and therefore the chair has consistently applied the 3/5ths rule on passage. In other words, anti-gun bills only require a simple majority. Pro-gun votes requite a super majority. In the house that is 71 votes.

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