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    Holder's DOJ opposes 4th Amendment protection for digital communications

    The U.S. Justice Department offered what amounts to a frontal attack on proposals to amend federal law to better protect Americans' privacy. This attack applies to both e-mail communications and file storage "in the cloud" -- basically, the Obama administration is urging Congress not to adopt legislation amending the Electronic Communications Privacy Act that would impose constitutional safeguards on Americans’ e-mail stored in the cloud.

    Gun rights activists who want to collaborate by sharing electronically private information and strategies, for example, would be subject to privacy violations that would be legal if the government has its way.

    Privacy groups want the law amended to require law enforcement to secure a search warrant first.

    The Justice Department opposes that; As CNET reported, James Baker, the associate deputy attorney general, warned that rewriting a 1986 privacy law to grant cloud computing users more privacy protections and to require court approval before tracking Americans' cell phones would hinder police investigations. Baker told a Senate committee that requiring a search warrant to obtain stored e-mail could have an "adverse impact" on criminal investigations. And making location information only available with a search warrant, he said, would hinder "the government's ability to obtain important information in investigations of serious crimes."

    Sen. Chuck Grassley, an Iowa Republican, seemed to agree. It's crucial, he said, "to ensure we don't limit (law enforcement's) ability to obtain information necessary to catch criminals and terrorists who use electronic communication." He also suggested that requiring warrants would lead to "increased burdens on the court system."

    As you can see, both Progressives and NeoCons are siding with law enforcement over the citizens thereby promoting Statism over liberty.

    You've been warned!

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    We don't need the government to protect our 4th Amentment right to secure communication. We can do it ourselves. Here is an idea everyone can use. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwohadcUv4A

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    "hinder the courts".........

    Shows you how twisted their thinking has become the courts were designed for our reprieve against the government...also shows you that it is no longer true.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kd7one View Post
    We don't need the government to protect our 4th Amentment right to secure communication. We can do it ourselves. Here is an idea everyone can use. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwohadcUv4A
    Here's another idea for your smart (cell) phone. Of course, if it's confiscated by the feds and you lock it or wipe it, they might add tampering with evidence or obstruction of justice...
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    hmm lets see i carry a prepaid phone, in which i have removed the gps chip in it( and it still works) hmmm my laptops encrypted and backed up off site sorry big brother your hand are not allowed in my pants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    ... He also suggested that requiring warrants would lead to "increased burdens on the court system."

    ,,,,,,!
    So reduce some spending and increase the courts budget. Not so hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kd7one View Post
    We don't need the government to protect our 4th Amentment right to secure communication. We can do it ourselves. Here is an idea everyone can use. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwohadcUv4A
    So many problems with that idea.

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