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Traveling to San Antonio for military training

DWCook

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Lenexa, Kansas
I was military for the Air Force and I wouldnt recommend taking your firearm with you if your just going for training. Personally that just make its a pain in the ass to notify commanders and such and then getting permission to have space in the armory. At least for me in the Air Force I had to get my First Sergeant to approve of me getting Armory space and I had to state and specify what would be stored in there and quanity.
 

Freeflight

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Yorktown VA, ,
As to carry on a Base or ANY Federal facility (except a court)

Here's a little tidbit that is very interesting. See 18 D 3.. in the excerpt below:

It specifically states: (3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons
in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful
purposes



Self defense is a lawful purpose, is it not? Our own Attorney General says that Self Defense is a valid lawful purpose.


18 U.S.C. § 930 : US Code - Section 930: Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities



(a) Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly
possesses or causes to be present a firearm or other dangerous
weapon in a Federal facility (other than a Federal court facility),
or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned
not more than 1 year, or both.
(b) Whoever, with intent that a firearm or other dangerous weapon
be used in the commission of a crime, knowingly possesses or causes
to be present such firearm or dangerous weapon in a Federal
facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
(c) A person who kills any person in the course of a violation of
subsection (a) or (b), or in the course of an attack on a Federal
facility involving the use of a firearm or other dangerous weapon,
or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be punished as
provided in sections 1111, 1112, 1113, and 1117.
(d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to -
(1) the lawful performance of official duties by an officer,
agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political
subdivision thereof, who is authorized by law to engage in or
supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or
prosecution of any violation of law;
(2) the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a
Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such
possession is authorized by law; or
(3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons
in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful
purposes.
(e)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), whoever knowingly
possesses or causes to be present a firearm in a Federal court
facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title,
imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to conduct which is described
in paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (d).
(f) Nothing in this section limits the power of a court of the
United States to punish for contempt or to promulgate rules or
orders regulating, restricting, or prohibiting the possession of
weapons within any building housing such court or any of its
proceedings, or upon any grounds appurtenant to such building.
(g) As used in this section:
(1) The term "Federal facility" means a building or part
thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal
employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing
their official duties.
(2) The term "dangerous weapon" means a weapon, device,
instrument, material, or substance, animate or inanimate, that is
used for, or is readily capable of, causing death or serious
bodily injury, except that such term does not include a pocket
knife with a blade of less than 2 1/2 inches in length.
(3) The term "Federal court facility" means the courtroom,
judges' chambers, witness rooms, jury deliberation rooms,
attorney conference rooms, prisoner holding cells, offices of the
court clerks, the United States attorney, and the United States
marshal, probation and parole offices, and adjoining corridors of
any court of the United States.
(h) Notice of the provisions of subsections (a) and (b) shall be
posted conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal
facility, and notice of subsection (e) shall be posted
conspicuously at each public entrance to each Federal court
facility, and no person shall be convicted of an offense under
subsection (a) or (e) with respect to a Federal facility if such
notice is not so posted at such facility, unless such person had
actual notice of subsection (a) or (e), as the case may be.
 
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AFCop

Regular Member
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Oct 13, 2008
Messages
181
Location
Newport News, Va
Lackland AFB

While I can't speak for Randolph or Ft Sam with the birth of Joint Base San Antonio here at Lackland you have to unload and seperate and the Security Forces Armory does offer short term courtesy storage for those who come on base for the day, weekend and you can pick it up whenever you go off base (as long as you do not interfere with shift change and telling you when that is in this forum would be an opsec violation). So for you retirees, civilians, etc. As long as you lock and seperate before coming on base and take it straight to armory or off base (depending if its the return trip or not) you are good to go.
 
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