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    Letter to CSN President, General Council and Chief of Police

    I haven't mailed this yet, but wanted input to make sure I'm not off base. Sorry for the long read, I couldn't sum up my argument in one page, but it fit just fine in two.

    To: Dr. Michael Richards, President
    6375 W. Charleston Blvd.
    Las Vegas, NV 89146

    CC: Chief, CSN Police Department
    General Council, College of Southern Nevada

    Re: Request for Permission to Carry Concealed Firearms on CSN Property.

    Dear Dr. Richards and other interested parties,

    This letter is to advise you of my renewed request for written permission to carry a concealed firearm while attending classes and conducting lawful business on CSN property in accordance with Nevada Revised Statute 202.265.

    I currently possess a valid permit to carry concealed firearms in the state of Nevada. My background has been thoroughly investigated many times. Once, with every firearms purchase made; and again, upon issuance of my permit to carry concealed firearms. I am a veteran of the United States Army where I underwent exhaustive background investigation to obtain a secret security clearance as well as extensive training in the use of firearms. I have been fingerprinted numerous times in the process of obtaining my security clearance, concealed firearms permit and Nevada gaming license. Clearly, if concern existed that I were a threat to public safety, it would have been discovered.

    Denial of this request without just cause or due process of law shall not only be deemed a violation of my rights under the second, fifth and fourteenth amendments to the United States Constitution, but may also constitute a violation of 18 USC, Section 1983. The Board of Regents being the governing body of the Nevada System of Higher Education, a subdivision of the State of Nevada has appointed Dr. Michael Richards to preside over the campuses that make up the College of Southern Nevada. This makes Dr. Richards an agent of the State and thus he must grant all rights afforded to me by the United States constitution; specifically, equal protection under the fourteenth amendment. Amanda Collins, a student at the University of Nevada, Reno and a victim of sexual assault on a NSHE campus, was granted permission to carry a concealed firearm while on campus. Under the equal protection clause of the fourteenth amendment, I, a similarly situated student of the Nevada System of Higher Education, demand similar accommodation as Ms. Collins.

    By implication, Nevada Revised Statute 202.265 suggests that a permit scheme exists to grant citizens the ability to lawfully possess and carry firearms on Nevada System of Higher Education property. According to the Supreme Court of the United States, A firearm licensing scheme must have defined, articulable criteria, and if a person should meet these criteria, a license shall issue (District of Columbia v. Heller). Additionally, the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the Heller decision applies to the states as well (McDonald v. City of Chicago, Ill). Because the Board of Regents has not clearly defined and articulated a permit scheme of their own, by default, they must accept the criteria as defined by Nevada Revised Statute 202.366.

    Denial of this request also constitutes coercion under Nevada Revised Statute 207.190 1. (b); by this statute, coercion is defined as to “deprive the person of any tool, implement or clothing, or hinder the person in the use thereof.” Article one, section eleven of the Nevada Constitution affirms the right of citizens of the State of Nevada to keep and bear arms “for security and defense.” Should this request be denied, I would effectively be deprived of the tools necessary for my security and defense beyond the boundaries of CSN where I have a lawful right to possess them.

    Additionally, should you refuse to grant this request; I shall hold the College of Southern Nevada financially liable for any damages that occur should I not be able to adequately provide for my own self-defense. This liability shall exist any place, on or off campus, where refusal to grant this request causes me to be without my firearm and damages occur. Currently, the General Council believes agents of the college enjoy immunity from liability under NRS 41.032, 41.0336 and 41.035. This is not the case. Consider the ruling made by the Supreme Court of the United States which says, “the affirmative duty to protect arises not from the State's knowledge of the individual’s predicament or from its expressions of intent to help him, but from the limitations which it has imposed on his freedom to act on his own behalf” (DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services). If this request is denied and my personal liberty restrained, a special relationship will exist. The College of Southern Nevada and its agents will then have an affirmative duty to ensure my safety anywhere the denial causes me to be disarmed, or accept liability for any damages that arise as a result of failure to provide adequate protection. NRS 41.032, 41.0336 and 41.035 will not shield the college or its personnel from liability should they deny this request.

    There is an easy way to avoid this liability; grant this request. NRS 41.032, 41.0336 and 41.035 would shield the administration from liability should it grant this request as granting it would be an “act” that does not restrain anyone’s liberty and does not create a special relationship with anyone as defined by the Supreme Court in the DeShaney case. In short, denying this request creates a liability by virtue of a special relationship, while granting it does nether. Rest assured, CCW permit holders are sane, rational people. The lack of significant statistical evidence to the contrary is testament to this. While I do not foresee a statistically rare tragedy like Virginia Tech ever occurring at CSN, violent crime is nonetheless a reality on and off campus. The sexual assault of Amanda Collins, at gunpoint, in a UNR parking facility confirms this. The State of Nevada trusts in my judgment and ability to safely carry my firearm virtually everywhere else, and so I ask that you would as well.

    Very Respectfully,
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    It goes too many places -- your research would make a good essay, but there is so much detail that it gets in the way of the message.

    I suggest that you redo it something like this:



    This letter is to advise you of my renewed request for written permission to carry a concealed firearm while attending classes and conducting lawful business on CSN property in accordance with Nevada Revised Statute 202.265. I currently possess a valid permit to carry concealed firearms in the state of Nevada.

    Amanda Collins, a student at the University of Nevada, Reno, was granted permission to carry a concealed firearm while on NSHE property after having become a victim of violent crime on campus. Under the equal protection clause of the fourteenth amendment, I, a similarly situated student of the Nevada System of Higher Education, demand similar accommodation as Ms. Collins.

    As shown by your recognition of the right in the case of Ms. Collins, a permit scheme exists to grant persons the ability to lawfully possess and carry firearms on Nevada System of Higher Education property. According to the Supreme Court of the United States, a firearm licensing scheme must have defined, articulable criteria, and if a person should meet these criteria, a license shall issue (District of Columbia v. Heller). Additionally, the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the Heller decision applies to the states as well (McDonald v. City of Chicago, Ill). Unless your criteria include having been victim of rape on a NSHE campus, there is no legal justification for denial of the same rights to others who have not yet been assaulted.

    Currently, the General Council believes that agents of the college enjoy immunity from liability under NRS 41.032, 41.0336 and 41.035. This is not the case, in light of your having recognized the rights of one person (Ms. Collins), while arbitrarily denying the same right to others. The Supreme Court of the United States has decided that “the affirmative duty to protect arises not from the State's knowledge of the individual’s predicament or from its expressions of intent to help him, but from the limitations which it has imposed on his freedom to act on his own behalf” (DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services).

    This liability extends to any place, on or off campus, where policy prohibiting these means of self-defense on NSHE property causes a person to be without their means of self-defense, such as while enroute to or from home on a class day.

    There is an easy way to avoid this liability; revise policy. Recognize that your students and staff are responsible adults, and return to them the right and responsibility for their own protection.

    Current policy creates a liability under NRS 41.032, 41.0336 and 41.035, while changing policy to recognize the right of students on campus to the means of self-defense removes the "special relationship" which currently places all liability upon NSHE.

    Rest assured, CCW permit holders are sane, rational people. The lack of significant statistical evidence to the contrary is testament to this. While I do not foresee a statistically rare tragedy like Virginia Tech ever occurring at CSN, violent crime is nonetheless a reality on and off campus. The sexual assault of Amanda Collins, at gunpoint, in a patrolled UNR parking facility confirms this. The State of Nevada trusts in my judgment and ability to safely carry my firearm virtually everywhere else, and so I petition that you, as a public institution, do so as well.
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    Or simply:


    Dear Dr. Richards and other interested parties,

    This letter is to advise you of my renewed request for written permission to carry a concealed firearm while attending classes and conducting lawful business on CSN property in accordance with Nevada Revised Statute 202.265.

    I currently possess a valid permit to carry concealed firearms in the state of Nevada. I request written permission to possess a firearm during lawful activity pursuant to NRA 202.265.

    Signed.......







    That should be all that is necessary. The essay can be for the lawyer to present if you appeal the denial in court, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrightme View Post
    Or simply:


    Dear Dr. Richards and other interested parties,

    This letter is to advise you of my renewed request for written permission to carry a concealed firearm while attending classes and conducting lawful business on CSN property in accordance with Nevada Revised Statute 202.265.

    I currently possess a valid permit to carry concealed firearms in the state of Nevada. I request written permission to possess a firearm during lawful activity pursuant to NRA 202.265.

    Signed.......







    That should be all that is necessary. The essay can be for the lawyer to present if you appeal the denial in court, right?
    but by expecting to go to court its going to take far longer, if at all. Throwing everything out like that can be a double edged sword (you have no other tricks up your sleeve to try and hit them with should it go to court), but by not putting put enough information out there it can also be easily ignored as the person sees no reason to pay attention to it.

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    Good letter. Keep up the pressure.

    TBG

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    I wish I wrote like that... nice

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    Great letter but I must agree with DVC. The shorter the letter, the better chance you have that they will read the whole thing.

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    I thought of this too, and typically I want my professional letters to stay within one page. However, These letters are always referred to their general council who would be unlikely to round file it before reading it completely for liability reasons.

    I still haven't mailed it though as I was just informed yesterday that SB 231 will be on next week's Nevada Senate agenda in it's amended form. I was also informed that Senator Schneider's office has be completely overwhelmed with complaints surrounding his objection and intent to obstruct the bill.

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    imo the letter was to long, lets hope we get campus carry soon.
    BTW, thanks-keep up the good work

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