riverrat10k
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Agree with you, too, Southern Boy. Well put.
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Need OC Advice - Stopped by LEO's at Mary Washington for OC
- Thread starter blackoak88
- Start date
I'd like a cite on the entire "you can carry in academic buildings" thing.
Especially in light of DiGiacinto v. Rector (George Mason University):
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/.../14/va-justices-uphold-gun-ban-gmu-ar-773759/
Fallschirjmäger
Active member
blackoak88 said:
Agreed.
When Officer Friendly sees you performing a "criminal act" and says 'I'm not going to arrest you, but please don't do that anymore, ok?" it's a sure sign of either malfeasance or ignorance of the law.
Can you imagine the Officer doing the same for a bank robber, a rapist, or someone committing arson?
vt357
Regular Member
Especially since they were accusing him of committing a felony (carrying on school property). That's not the same as getting a warning for speeding.
2a4all
Regular Member
A Felony? This wasn't a K-12 school.
t33j
Regular Member
Aye, at GMU (and probably VCU) http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+reg+8VAC35-60-20 says you can't carry in basically any building. Nobody else has stuff in the VAC though...
Dreamer
Regular Member
I think he meant that the police were ACCUSING him of committing a felony, because they claimed that the GFSZ ban included colleges and universities. If they REALLY believed he was violating the School Zone ban, then in their minds, he was committing a felony.
I think they knew darn well he was not breaking any laws, and were just intimidating him or else they would not have let him off with a warning. This was a prime example of "color of law" intimidation.
I think they knew darn well he was not breaking any laws, and were just intimidating him or else they would not have let him off with a warning. This was a prime example of "color of law" intimidation.
wylde007
Regular Member
It's an example of intimidation. There is no "color of law" about it. They lied and accused him of committing a non-crime.
TFred
Regular Member
Sure sounds like the officers were acting under the color of law to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_(law)
TFred
blackoak88
Regular Member
My reasoning behind being able to carry in buildings other than dorms is based on experience at UMW. Read this article. I organized the event. Pay specific attention to page 2.
http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2008/042008/04252008/374535/index_html?page=1
http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2008/042008/04252008/374535/index_html?page=1
TFred
Regular Member
That was a single data point, and an exceptional one at that.
As you note, it was an organized event, attended by the press and a LEO who knows that carrying in a campus building is not against the law, and that expelling you from the building for violating University policy would have given you more press coverage than you would get by just leaving you alone.
I would not draw any conclusions from this single event that could be applied to the general public or their behavior at any random date and time.
JMHO.
TFred
