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    Wal-Mart Carry Experience

    Last night (morning) at around 1:30 a.m. I decided to run to Washington City Wal-Mart to pick up some much-needed food. I was, of course, open carrying my G23 while wearing jeans and a t-shirt. As soon as I walk in the store, the greeter says to me, "Is that a gun?" I said, "Yes, yes it is." (I really wanted to say, "Nope, squirt gun.")

    I've walked past her at least a hundred times before, and it had to be this night that she noticed. She's like, "I can't let you past here with that, I'll lose my job." ...If that were true, she'd have lost it at least 50 times over. Anyway, she calls the customer service manager over to the front on the radio whilst I'm standing there with my cart being patient and polite.

    The customer service manager comes over to me and says, "Why are you carrying a gun?" I answer with the always-safe "Because I can, and because Utah state law allows it. And no, I am not a police officer." She proceeds to lecture me about how her son has a concealed-weapons permit, and that means I need to carry concealed... blah blah blah, and her other son is in the special forces and has guns but never carries "Like that", pointing to my hip. At this point I'm getting a little irritated, and I say, "So what would you suggest I do? I can go put it in my car, I can leave..." She says, "Well, I don't know what Wal-Mart's policy is on guns, so let me call the store manager over here to sort all this out."

    All I expected to do was grab some Hot Pockets and stuff and get out of there, but now I'm having a little giggle inside at this point, because I'm now considered a 'situation'. The manager eventually comes over after a few minutes and in her German accent says, "Well what is this?", looking at me standing with the two older ladies who are all sorts of flustered. The customer service manager explained to the manager, "Well, this gentleman here has a gun. He's carrying it in the open, so everyone can see it. I just don't know what to do, or what Wal-Mart's policy is on carrying guns or anything like that. What do we do about it?"

    The manager then asks me, "So Utah lets you carry a gun like that? Out in the open?" Yes, Ma'am they do. She says okay, then proceeds to stay silent for a short time and look around her. She says, "So... what are you shopping for? How long do you think you'll be?" I told her that I would be fifteen minutes tops, and that I was just buying a little bit of food. She hesitated to say something again, so I decided to say what I wanted to originally, thinking I had really nothing else to lose because I was probably going to be asked to leave anyways.

    "Ma'am, can I just say that this is a little ridiculous? There are no rules or policies posted at the front of the store, and if there had been I wouldn't have come in here and I wouldn't be dancing around here right now. I am more than qualified to safely carry a pistol because I have been trained by local law-enforcement in how to handle myself and any situation that I could encounter, but no I am obviously not a policeman, like I said before. I choose to carry my gun this way. I am obviously not a mad gunman, because I'm standing here having a conversation about something I've done a hundred times before. None of your employees have caught it until right now, none of your customers have ever complained, and you just told me you've never heard of anybody doing this in your store, even though I do it at least once a week. I'd really rather you tell me to leave, which I will happily do, than have me stand here when I could have better things to do. Legally, I am completely in the green. I'm just sorry that Wal-Mart doesn't know how they feel about it."

    Yeah, a little forward and bold, I know. But I was very confident with how I worded everything. She nods her head and keeps quiet for another few seconds while her two elderly employees keep looking at her for some sort of answer, then says "So fifteen minutes, you said?" I tell her yes.

    She then motions for one of her off-duty cashiers to come over and stand with us. The guy who came over was quite built, and a lot larger than I was. "A bouncer. Great.", I thought to myself. The manager says to him, "Jason, you are going to escort this gentleman during his shopping experience. Just try to stand in front of where his gun is so that they customers don't see it. If they say something, just tell them management is aware and okay with him carrying his gun." I'm laughing at this point, because I thought it was a joke. It wasn't.

    Jason walked near me (not holding an iron curtain over my Glock) and we talked about his employment with the National Guard, guns, his wife and child and his child on the way, and about the LDS church! I told him, "I wish every Wal-Mart shopping experience was this personal!" This guy helped me grocery shop and at one point said, "Hey, what kind of bread did you want? I'll grab it while you grab the corn dogs."

    My late-night Wal-Mart "experience" turned into comedy more than anything else. I walked out of the store with groceries and a smile on my face.

    I feel pretty good about the whole experience and feel like I took care of everything appropriately and respectfully!
    Last edited by sg_pilot; 04-21-2011 at 11:12 PM.

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    I Like it! I got a big kick out of this Jason fellow. Haha. Good post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Are you going to stop and ask the greeter for your escort from now on?
    I think they call that a personal shopping assistant. And usually you have to go to a much higher end place than Walmart to get one.

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    Wasting the time of 4 employees because none of them knew corporate policy?
    Hope you'll call corporate & have them reconfirm their policy to the store staff.

    Esp. with the 'customer service manager' being so out of line.
    What her sons do has absolutely no bearing on what you do, or on corporate policy.
    But I think the store manager's solution was funny.
    You should ask for Jason every time you go in from now on.
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    A comedy of errors

    Great post, it sounds like a great time was had by all but put those ladies on some kind of anti-anxiety medication. I frequently OC into Walmart in Herriman no problems yet. I may pay the manager a visit today to inqiure as to his being current on corporate policy. Thanks for the laugh.

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    Wow. I've never run into a problem like that in a Walmart in Utah, Washington, or Colorado.

    I did have a similar experience in a Home Depot in Washington. The loss prevention manager came over and didn't insist that I leave but he stayed with me the whole time. Not sure what he was planning to do if I did turn out to be a Bad Guy. Anyway, easiest shopping I've ever gotten done in a Home Depot as he knew exactly where everything was! Concierge shopping courtesy of OC!

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    People of Walmart, HA! Try employees of Walmart. Jason was good by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eBratt
    Concierge shopping courtesy of OC!
    An added extra-value benefit to exercising your rights.
    I didn't see that mentioned in the membership materials...
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    The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.
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    Walmart Update

    I to was stopped in Walmart (Clinton) with mywife doing our monthly shopping. Well she was shopping for for grocery's I was over in sporting goods TV's and such. I had two security employee's along with the store manager.
    They told me I cound not wear my gun openly in the store. I have been in this store over a dozen times before.
    I was told to leave or go out and put my gun in my vehicle. I told them there was no sign saying No Open Carry of Firearms, I was told they did not have to put up a sign because it was Private Property. Private Property or not there must be a Sign somewere so when before you enter the store you can see it. Their manager went up stairs to the office and typed up a letter saying to their employee;s that customers were not permitted to carry open fire arms in their store, and to destroy the letter after reading it.
    Each store has their own policy acccording to the Corporate Office.
    I read an article online about 3 weeks ago saying that Walmart was going to start selling more long guns (shot-guns and rifles along with reloading equipment and ammunition because they were not selling Audio/Video equipment like they had hoped too.
    So be carefull of the snake with the silver tounge (Walmart corparate policy) because they may say one thing but do another.
    Well enough for today, see ya on the trail.

    Gpaw

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