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    Kennewick OCer makes KPD police blotter...

    From the latest Kennewick Police Blotter:

    "Weapons/5200 blk W Clearwater Ave- Officers responded to a report of an adult male inside with a pistol holstered on his leg. Officer’s contacted the 25 year old male who had a .45 1911 style handgun in a drop leg Serpa type holster. He also had two extra magazines and a weapon light attached to the holster. He was contacted paying for his groceries at the register. He was cooperative and held his hands out to show he was cooperative upon Officers approach. He advised that he has a concealed license (confirmed) but open carries as it is more comfortable. Store management advised him that he was not welcome inside their store with a displayed firearm. The subject has been previously contacted by KPD for same thing."

    So my dear wife asks me, "Now, the question I have is, if OC is LEGAL why do the police even respond to a report of it at all??? I mean, if the "suspect" isn't doing anything fishy, other than carrying a firearm openly, then why would the police need to respond?"

    "That's a darned good question" I replied. Perhaps poor training on the side of the dispatchers? Panicked dork at the Albertsons on Clearwater? LEO boredom? A pressing need to try out a new flavor of mace? Actually it seems he's trespassing since it reads like he has been shown the door before at Albertons related to OCing. But, hey, what do I know?..

    So, who the heck was this? Bueller? TCOCers?
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    Possible that he was being tresspassed? Wonder is it anyone from here?

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    It said he was previously contacted for the same thing... It didn't say he was contacted in the store. He could have been contacted by police anywhere.
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    Well one part of your question is answered he was told to leave before and told not to come back ie Criminal Trespass.
    As well it is still up to a business or home owner for that matter to allow or not allow firearms on their property even though it is legal to carry, if they tell you to leave and not return and you do it have broke the law.

    Wonder if he had open carried in a holster on a belt if it would have brought the attention it did with a thigh rig !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    Well one part of your question is answered he was told to leave before and told not to come back ie Criminal Trespass.
    Doesn't say he was previously asked not to come back, or leave.



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    Wonder if he had open carried in a holster on a belt if it would have brought the attention it did with a thigh rig !!!!
    Better pull up your down rigger.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky508 View Post
    Doesn't say he was previously asked not to come back, or leave.
    Store management advised him that he was not welcome inside their store with a displayed firearm. The subject has been previously contacted by KPD for same thing."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    Store management advised him that he was not welcome inside their store with a displayed firearm. The subject has been previously contacted by KPD for same thing."
    Same thing could mean he had been contacted by KPD for OC'ing and not necessarily for carrying in that store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeroket View Post
    Same thing could mean he had been contacted by KPD for OC'ing and not necessarily for carrying in that store.
    I got the same interpretation. Could be either way....

    A drop leg.....???? more attention gathered by a private business that is unnecessary...
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    I never have a problem down the road at Safeway or the 395 Wally World. I notice we dont have a store policy on Albertsons, unless I missed it. I'm still waiting for to see if Gunner ever gets his reply from Autozone on their policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    I never have a problem down the road at Safeway or the 395 Wally World. I notice we dont have a store policy on Albertsons, unless I missed it. I'm still waiting for to see if Gunner ever gets his reply from Autozone on their policy.
    On Friday I sent another request to Autozone.... still waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    From the latest Kennewick Police Blotter:

    "Weapons/5200 blk W Clearwater Ave- Officers responded to a report of an adult male inside with a pistol holstered on his leg. Officer’s contacted the 25 year old male who had a .45 1911 style handgun in a drop leg Serpa type holster. He also had two extra magazines and a weapon light attached to the holster. He was contacted paying for his groceries at the register. He was cooperative and held his hands out to show he was cooperative upon Officers approach. He advised that he has a concealed license (confirmed) but open carries as it is more comfortable. Store management advised him that he was not welcome inside their store with a displayed firearm. The subject has been previously contacted by KPD for same thing."

    So my dear wife asks me, "Now, the question I have is, if OC is LEGAL why do the police even respond to a report of it at all??? I mean, if the "suspect" isn't doing anything fishy, other than carrying a firearm openly, then why would the police need to respond?"

    "That's a darned good question" I replied. Perhaps poor training on the side of the dispatchers? Panicked dork at the Albertsons on Clearwater? LEO boredom? A pressing need to try out a new flavor of mace? Actually it seems he's trespassing since it reads like he has been shown the door before at Albertons related to OCing. But, hey, what do I know?..

    So, who the heck was this? Bueller? TCOCers?
    Is that from the Tri cities herald blotter? If so what day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1Gunr View Post
    On Friday I sent another request to Autozone.... still waiting.
    Keep us posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    Is that from the Tri cities herald blotter? If so what day?
    Not the Herald, it's from the weekly KPD email blotter...
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    M1Gunr,

    It says he was paying for his groceries. I just assumed it was Albertsons and based on your list I'm probably correct.

    I wonder if after getting LEOed he actually paid for the groceries? I would not be leaving any of my bucks after getting a nice interview. Just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    Not the Herald, it's from the weekly KPD email blotter...
    Got a link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    Not the Herald, it's from the weekly KPD email blotter...
    Got a link, I wanna sign up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    Got a link, I wanna sign up.
    Makes for interesting reading. I think it's why the Mrs. carries now.

    Here's the link to KPD, then sign up for the bulletin.
    http://www.go2kennewick.com/index.ph...523&Itemid=489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    Makes for interesting reading. I think it's why the Mrs. carries now.
    is there a link to sign up for it?

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Albeartsons corporate office called me on Thursday and said their policy was to follow state law regarding firearms. So at the corporate level there is no prohibition on firearms at Albertsons.
    I wonder if Navy ever got a written confirmation on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    Wonder if he had open carried in a holster on a belt if it would have brought the attention it did with a thigh rig !!!!
    I've tried someone's thigh rig a few times and never received any more attention than normal, i.e. next to none.

    It just felt more comfortable, especially in the car. I'd rather have something on the side of my leg than digging into my right kidney.

    I just don't have the funds for such a holster at the moment. I'd wear one because of comfort, and because of what my own experience has told me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .45ACPaddy View Post

    It just felt more comfortable, especially in the car. I'd rather have something on the side of my leg than digging into my right kidney.
    Did you try and draw the weapon carried in a thigh rig while seated and belted in a car seat? Just remember that you may have to do so in that position while stopped in traffic or at a light. Might be close to impossible if you have a console without some contortions. For car carry, try a cross draw. Not trapped under the seat belt and when you draw the firearm is already on the side of your body where it is most likely to be needed.
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    It was not me.

    I OC in the Pasco Albertsons just about every time I'm there, and never a word. Of course, I try not to go there any more than necessary because the store is poorly managed, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeroket View Post
    Same thing could mean he had been contacted by KPD for OC'ing and not necessarily for carrying in that store.
    Read that sentence again.

    "Store management advised him that he was not welcome inside their store with a displayed firearm. The subject has been previously contacted by KPD for same thing."

    Taken literally "not welcome inside their store" and then "previously contacted for the same thing", says what? That he was previous contacted by the KPD for not being welcome inside their store.

    While it could simply be poor journalism as written and not true, that statement is perfectly clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VW_Factor View Post
    Read that sentence again.

    "Store management advised him that he was not welcome inside their store with a displayed firearm. The subject has been previously contacted by KPD for same thing."

    Taken literally "not welcome inside their store" and then "previously contacted for the same thing", says what? That he was previous contacted by the KPD for not being welcome inside their store.

    While it could simply be poor journalism as written and not true, that statement is perfectly clear.
    You don't read police blotters much do you? They are hardly clear and concise. Either interpretation of it is correct. I stand by how I interpret the sentences.
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    I guess it really depends on the context of the 911 call. I worked in NC as a 911 operator for several months and there are very few calls we are allowed to brush off. (you get your occasional nut job that would like the police to tell his neighbor that his dog cant crap in his yard or something) but anything involving a gun no matter how legal an officer is going to at least come out and investigate the call.

    I wasnt there and I dont know but it could have been a call from the manager where they wanted the OC to leave but did not want to tell them themselves?
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