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    Florida Carry Legislative Alert - SB 234 on Senate Calendar 4/27

    FLORIDA CARRY, INC. LEGISLATIVE ALERT

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – April 25, 2011

    SB 234 – On Senate Special Calendar for April 27, 2011

    Members and friends,

    We’re down to the wire. On Wednesday, the Senate will vote on SB 234. This bill includes open carry, vehicle carry, DOACS fingerprint authorization, and long/shotgun contiguous state purchase repeal.
    Of course, the most contentious element is open carry. This is going to be a squeaker, folks. By now, the Senators should have already made up their minds. Nonetheless, Florida Carry is requesting one last push to deliver this baby.

    We’ve shown the untruthful (and perhaps unlawful) tactics used by the various Sheriff’s offices and the Florida Sheriff’s Association that has spurred an official investigation by the State Attorney’s Office, FDLE, and OCSO internal affairs. Pinellas County Sheriff Coats told the committees his speculation on open carry, then admitted that he hadn’t researched how open carry works in any other state. Volusia County Sheriff Ben Johnson described how open carriers would inundate the Daytona 500 and Bike Week, completely ignorant that Daytona International Speedway was private property and does not permit weapons either open or concealed. In fact, not a single opposition speaker ever addressed how so many other states could have open carry without the doom and gloom predictions they espoused. Is it coincidence that the same predictions were made in 1987 with regards to shall-issue concealed carry?

    Please take a moment and fire up your e-mail clients one more time. Thank you for your continued support, and with any luck, we’ll be seeing you at an open carry picnic sometime in the near future!

    Feel free to use the e-mail helper below, and thank you again for your solid support. We’re almost there, and we just need a final push to get this bill to the Governor’s desk for his promised signature.
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    alexander.jd.web@flsenate.gov; altman.thad.web@flsenate.gov; benacquisto.lizbeth.web@flsenate.gov; bennett.mike.web@flsenate.gov; bogdanoff.ellyn.web@flsenate.gov; bullard.larcenia.web@flsenate.gov; dean.charles.web@flsenate.gov; detert.nancy.web@flsenate.gov; portilla.miguel.web@flsenate.gov; dockery.paula.web@flsenate.gov; evers.greg.web@flsenate.gov; fasano.mike.web@flsenate.gov; flores.anitere.web@flsenate.gov; gaetz.don.web@flsenate.gov; garcia.rene.web@flsenate.gov; gardiner.andy.web@flsenate.gov; haridopolos.mike.web@flsenate.gov; hays.alan.web@flsenate.gov; hill.tony.web@flsenate.gov; jones.dennis.web@flsenate.gov; joyner.arthenia.web@flsenate.gov; latvala.jack.web@flsenate.gov; lynn.evelyn.web@flsenate.gov; margolis.gwen.web@flsenate.gov; montford.bill.web@flsenate.gov; African Americann.joe.web@flsenate.gov; norman.jim.web@flsenate.gov; oelrich.steve.web@flsenate.gov; rich.nan.web@flsenate.gov; richter.garrett.web@flsenate.gov; ring.jeremy.web@flsenate.gov; sachs.maria.web@flsenate.gov; simmons.david.web@flsenate.gov; siplin.gary.web@flsenate.gov; smith.chris.web@flsenate.gov; sobel.eleanor.web@flsenate.gov; storms.ronda.web@flsenate.gov; thrasher.john.web@flsenate.gov; wise.stephen.web@flsenate.gov

    SUBJECT:

    Vote favorably for SB 234

    Dear Senator,

    Senate Bill 234 deserves your support, as do the 780,000 active concealed carry licensees who have patiently waited for this bill for over 23 years. Governor Scott has already stated he will sign the bill as a 2nd Amendment supporter. Florida is one of only seven states that do not permit some form of general open carry. The objections raised by law enforcement and retail associations make no mention that the practice of open carry is successful in 43 states, nor do they acknowledge their dire predictions are the same “blood in the streets” arguments of almost a quarter-century ago. Those predictions have been proven unfounded.

    Please do the right thing and vote in favor of SB 234.

    Respectfully yours,

    <your name>
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    Sent. Say a prayer for this, brother. It's going to be close.

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    Sent...

    Also added this line "If you cannot vote in favor of SB 234, please abstain from voting on this bill."
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    Quote Originally Posted by oogotbagsoo View Post
    Sent...

    Also added this line "If you cannot vote in favor of SB 234, please abstain from voting on this bill."
    BEAUTIFUL! Too bad I sent already

    If you guys are OC by next week I won't be there to break it in with you! I'll be here in texas till mid may I've been following/supporting this bill for most of it's life and if it passes I won't be there to bring it in! WHAT A BUMMER!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlitz View Post
    BEAUTIFUL! Too bad I sent already

    If you guys are OC by next week I won't be there to break it in with you! I'll be here in texas till mid may I've been following/supporting this bill for most of it's life and if it passes I won't be there to bring it in! WHAT A BUMMER!!!
    Its alright man ! At least you'll have something nice waiting for you when you get home. Think of it as something to look forward to.

    there I go talking as if the bill passed already... we're still cutting it very close.
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    Sent, Now all we have to do is wait and hope and maybe say a small prayer...
    I truly hope this passes...

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    Sent!
    American Government 101:
    The Executive branch's job is to provide celebrity figureheads for the pandering populace.
    The Legislative branch's job is to progressively destroy our freedoms for the "safety" of "We the Sheeple."
    The Judicial branch's job is to look like they're defending our freedoms against the abuses of the Legislative branch, only by token gestures that do not interfere is this pivotal process, but enough to deceive "We the People" into a false sense of security.

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    sent and added "If you cannot vote in favor of SB 234, please abstain from voting on this bill."

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    I really don't understand this DOACS fingerprinting thing. Don't they already do it? They took my fingerprints for my permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skk123 View Post
    I really don't understand this DOACS fingerprinting thing. Don't they already do it? They took my fingerprints for my permit.
    Yes, they do. However the statute only authorizes fingerprints taken by law enforcement agencies. The bill gives DOACS statutory permission.
    Last edited by Rich7553; 04-26-2011 at 12:35 AM.
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    I may be in Afghanistan, however, I sure would like to "Open Carry" when I get home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcfla View Post
    I may be in Afghanistan, however, I sure would like to "Open Carry" when I get home!
    Might you be stationed at Tyndall? I noticed PCB in under your user name.

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    Thumbs up

    Sent. I'll be watchin' the live feed tomorrow. My fingers are crossed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mach1chris View Post
    Its going to be a very close call, im not so sure its going to pass....
    Apparently Evers office said they have 24 confirmed yeas. I'm guessing they convinced Oelrich/Latvala, and supposedly Montford.
    American Government 101:
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    The Legislative branch's job is to progressively destroy our freedoms for the "safety" of "We the Sheeple."
    The Judicial branch's job is to look like they're defending our freedoms against the abuses of the Legislative branch, only by token gestures that do not interfere is this pivotal process, but enough to deceive "We the People" into a false sense of security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mach1chris View Post
    Its going to be a very close call, im not so sure its going to pass....
    A 1.5 year long member of this forum, with only helpful and sober posts, went to Evers' office and the aid said they had 24 yeas. We need 21 if Bullard shows.
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    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Is 517 on a calender yet, or are they still not scheduling it until they get the senate vote?
    American Government 101:
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    The Legislative branch's job is to progressively destroy our freedoms for the "safety" of "We the Sheeple."
    The Judicial branch's job is to look like they're defending our freedoms against the abuses of the Legislative branch, only by token gestures that do not interfere is this pivotal process, but enough to deceive "We the People" into a false sense of security.

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    Where abouts in Haines City are you Tigger? I live there, in fact last night we held the first official meeting of the Polk County Libertarians and are trying to grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~*'Phoenix'*~ View Post
    Is 517 on a calender yet, or are they still not scheduling it until they get the senate vote?
    http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sectio...6&Session=2011

    Not yet. It will be Friday or next week.
    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    I don't know if I will be able to watch tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mach1chris View Post
    Its going to be a very close call, im not so sure its going to pass....
    negative nancy... Get on your representatives about it and make the odds better rather than just being negative! I think you made mention that you're on the job in Miami? What does your agency think about OC? Are you helping the cause in the LE community?

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    Sen. Bogdanoff has suggested a floor amendment in another attempt by her to gut the bill.
    http://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/201...ent/322294/PDF

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    Quote Originally Posted by StogieC View Post
    Sen. Bogdanoff has suggested a floor amendment in another attempt by her to gut the bill.
    http://flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/201...ent/322294/PDF
    Do you find the new info from Evers's aid encouraging or no?
    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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