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    More police overreach

    http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/B...755199.html?dr

    There's a man with a gun and he's going to shoot me!!" yelled Carmita. “I thought it was the robber!" Her sister, Judge Holmes, came running to the kitchen. The judge carries a legal firearm and immediately pulled it out and held it in her hand.

    “I know no one apologized, OK? And, to me, if you want to make amends for something, you want to make peace, you apologize, you shake, you leave, you say ‘I'm sorry,’" she said. "And, you know, the cop that had his gun on me, he said ‘well, I was fearing for my life.’ I said ‘really! You were fearing for your life? Really?’ He said ‘forget it - I'm out of here.'"

    Cross posted to Florida section

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    After this experience, I say... judge Holmes for Florida Senate?

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    Once again the excuse of "I want to go home to my family, tonight" is used by a LEO to justify any and all actions. Let me start off by saying I want all LEOs to get home safe to their families. I just don't think it should be used as reasoning to drag a family out of their home on Easter Sunday at gunpoint.

    The LEOs responded to a burglary call. Totally reasonable. The go to the wrong address. A mistake, but somewhat understandable. They see someone in a kitchen, draw weapons and order everyone out. I am starting to have a serious problem here. Upon discovery of said mistake, they act as if it's all part of the job. HUGE PROBLEM WITH THAT.

    I know that LEOs are only human and make mistakes. I just think that to be a decent human you have to apologize for them.

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    good points, Savageone

    a couple of points i noticed

    police claim; they show a black man doing dishes, and naturally assumed he is a burglar

    the judge she was C W B, carrying will black.

    i do wonder if lessons will be learned. unfortunately, if someone doesn't think they have done anything wrong, nothing will change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by papa bear View Post
    good points, Savageone

    a couple of points i noticed

    police claim; they show a black man doing dishes, and naturally assumed he is a burglar

    the judge she was C W B, carrying will black.

    i do wonder if lessons will be learned. unfortunately, if someone doesn't think they have done anything wrong, nothing will change.
    Why of course thieves always break in make themselves dinner with their family and then kindly wash the dishes before robbing the place. I think Obama could have rightly stated they "acted stupidly" on this one.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    I Wouldn't Want To Be The Cop..

    I wouldn't want to be any of the Cops if I had to show up in her court room some day.. especially if she's got a long memory!

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    Someone in the White House needs to read this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageOne View Post
    I know that LEOs are only human and make mistakes. I just think that to be a decent human you have to apologize for them.
    Aye, which is why they didn't apologize. FDLE has a strong policy on hiring not-so-respectable people as LEOs.
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    When you are a Judge, I guess any firearm you own becomes a "legal one".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageOne View Post
    I know that LEOs are only human and make mistakes. I just think that to be a decent human you have to apologize for them.
    Accidents and mistakes come as matched sets with apologies. That's part of how you can recognize them as unintentional. If you feel no need for an apology for misbehavior, then it wasn't an accident or mistake on your part, you MEANT to do it.

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