ixtow
Founder's Club Member
As the Florida Sheriff's Association has made abundantly clear, they have been unable to prosecute Accidental Exposure of a Firearm. They could harass, arrest, make you hire a lawyer for hearings, etc... Make your life hard for carrying a gun. But in the end, be unable to actually get you convicted. They've tried like hell, but never managed to.
Bogdanoff's killer amendment transforms SB234 into a weapon that will allow them to finally secure that prosecution. It does not protect CCers from accidental exposure. It creates subjective language that enables the currently abusive Police policies that can't get traction, to finally have that traction based on an anti-gun Officer's subjective interpretation, or just outright fabrication.
Bogdanoff's Amendment secures that final step of prosecuting CCers. It does not protect CCers at all. It does entirely the opposite.
She and her supports can SAY anything they want to the supposed INTENT. An examination of current Police Policies, heavily documented actions, open statements, and a plain reading of her amendment, proves what it will ACTUALLY do.
If the bill passes as amended, even CC with a Permit in perfectly legal fashion will become unsafe for permit holders to do. Any cop with an agenda, or anti-gun citizen with a chip on their shoulder, will be able to land a legal CCer in jail.
I hate to say it, but toljaso. I said the LEOs would turn it into a weapon against us. And they did. Not even CC is safe now. This has made the whole of 790.06 utterly useless. They have practically abolished all forms of carry in the State. Only the Rich and Well Connected will be able to carry now, regardless of having a permit or following the law.
I put off moving out of state in the hopes that this would happen. But I have to look at the timeline now. I don't want to live out the rest of my life with the futile Hope for Change lifestyle. I want to actually live what is left of my life with some degree of freedom. Maybe FL will have OC, but I'll be long dead of old age by the time it happens. This was our best, real chance. It's over.
No one is more about the fight than I am. But I've been in it for far too long. I've been at war with this State for almost 20 years. Nothing good has ever happened, not even once. It only gets worse and worse. I gotta retire from the war someday. Today is that day. I'm already showing serious signs of "Fight dragons long enough, and you become one." I'm not the man for this job anymore, and it's quite debatable that I ever really was.... ;-)
I've been shot at, kids kidnapped, house shot full of holes, run down on my motorcycle, arrested, maliciously prosecuted, beaten to a bloody pulp; and all of that multiple times. All of this done to me BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WIPED OUT THIS BILL. It's time to concede that Floriduh is Lost. My only hope now is for the day I get to watch it burn. It is a Police State, and will never be recovered but by outright force and the spilling of blood.
As 790.06 is currently written, it doesn't address accidental exposure at all. Judges have ruled that accidents are not within the spirit or intent of the law. So, the bogus charges don't stick. We have precedent as our protection.
With this bill as amended, the LEOs get to add in their own opinion of your intent to determine if the now statutory exception applies to you or not. They have made their position on how they intend to abuse this very clear over the past 24 years, and very vocally during committee debates over this bill.
The bill, as amended, serves no purpose but to expose CCers to more trouble, not protect them from it. And I'm pretty sure that was the game from the beginning.
Bogdanoff's killer amendment transforms SB234 into a weapon that will allow them to finally secure that prosecution. It does not protect CCers from accidental exposure. It creates subjective language that enables the currently abusive Police policies that can't get traction, to finally have that traction based on an anti-gun Officer's subjective interpretation, or just outright fabrication.
Bogdanoff's Amendment secures that final step of prosecuting CCers. It does not protect CCers at all. It does entirely the opposite.
She and her supports can SAY anything they want to the supposed INTENT. An examination of current Police Policies, heavily documented actions, open statements, and a plain reading of her amendment, proves what it will ACTUALLY do.
If the bill passes as amended, even CC with a Permit in perfectly legal fashion will become unsafe for permit holders to do. Any cop with an agenda, or anti-gun citizen with a chip on their shoulder, will be able to land a legal CCer in jail.
I hate to say it, but toljaso. I said the LEOs would turn it into a weapon against us. And they did. Not even CC is safe now. This has made the whole of 790.06 utterly useless. They have practically abolished all forms of carry in the State. Only the Rich and Well Connected will be able to carry now, regardless of having a permit or following the law.
I put off moving out of state in the hopes that this would happen. But I have to look at the timeline now. I don't want to live out the rest of my life with the futile Hope for Change lifestyle. I want to actually live what is left of my life with some degree of freedom. Maybe FL will have OC, but I'll be long dead of old age by the time it happens. This was our best, real chance. It's over.
No one is more about the fight than I am. But I've been in it for far too long. I've been at war with this State for almost 20 years. Nothing good has ever happened, not even once. It only gets worse and worse. I gotta retire from the war someday. Today is that day. I'm already showing serious signs of "Fight dragons long enough, and you become one." I'm not the man for this job anymore, and it's quite debatable that I ever really was.... ;-)
I've been shot at, kids kidnapped, house shot full of holes, run down on my motorcycle, arrested, maliciously prosecuted, beaten to a bloody pulp; and all of that multiple times. All of this done to me BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WIPED OUT THIS BILL. It's time to concede that Floriduh is Lost. My only hope now is for the day I get to watch it burn. It is a Police State, and will never be recovered but by outright force and the spilling of blood.
As 790.06 is currently written, it doesn't address accidental exposure at all. Judges have ruled that accidents are not within the spirit or intent of the law. So, the bogus charges don't stick. We have precedent as our protection.
With this bill as amended, the LEOs get to add in their own opinion of your intent to determine if the now statutory exception applies to you or not. They have made their position on how they intend to abuse this very clear over the past 24 years, and very vocally during committee debates over this bill.
The bill, as amended, serves no purpose but to expose CCers to more trouble, not protect them from it. And I'm pretty sure that was the game from the beginning.
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