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    Positive LEO interaction in Newport News

    With all the info flying about negative interactions with the police in the last bit, I thought it would be good to relay a cute interaction from a couple of weeks ago. I was in an auto accident that left me and my family on the side of the interstate in Newport News. Unable to reach anyone local that could assist, it was decided to take us to the tow shop. To do this is no easy feat with 3 car seats.

    As I am anchoring/fighting the two larger seats into the back of the cruiser, my shirt flies up from passing traffic. The officer turns to the two driver and comments "There's a man after my own heart, you don't see many carrying revolvers anymore" to which there is a bit of laughter. I hear about that comment later from the tow driver.

    We have a short discussion on firearms in the tow yard as we are getting everything pulled out of the cruiser.

    Bad situation, good LEO interaction

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    My revolver is more comfortable to carry and feels more natural the way it sits.
    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coltcarrier View Post
    With all the info flying about negative interactions with the police in the last bit, I thought it would be good to relay a cute interaction from a couple of weeks ago. I was in an auto accident that left me and my family on the side of the interstate in Newport News. Unable to reach anyone local that could assist, it was decided to take us to the tow shop. To do this is no easy feat with 3 car seats.

    As I am anchoring/fighting the two larger seats into the back of the cruiser, my shirt flies up from passing traffic. The officer turns to the two driver and comments "There's a man after my own heart, you don't see many carrying revolvers anymore" to which there is a bit of laughter. I hear about that comment later from the tow driver.

    We have a short discussion on firearms in the tow yard as we are getting everything pulled out of the cruiser.

    Bad situation, good LEO interaction
    It appears that NNPD Officers aren't shocked when encountering armed citizens, but pleasantly surprised when they turn out to be "Good Guys". I had a brief conversation with a NNPD Officer about revolvers, and his comment was "You only have six shots.".
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    It appears that NNPD Officers aren't shocked when encountering armed citizens, but pleasantly surprised when they turn out to be "Good Guys". I had a brief conversation with a NNPD Officer about revolvers, and his comment was "You only have six shots.".
    Glad it was positive. I had bad reports about NNPD harassing photographers recently and am in the process of setting up to find out if they widespread problems or just a few cops.

    The advantages of Revolvers...

    Stronger, usually more accurate, don't have to chase brass, faster out of the holster first shot potential.

    Disadvantages....

    Less pointable, less concealable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    The advantages of Revolvers...

    Stronger, usually more accurate, don't have to chase brass, faster out of the holster first shot potential.

    Disadvantages....

    Less pointable, less concealable.
    Well, lots of advantages. Would welcome more frequent sightings of revolvers, like the one below:



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    I like 1911's. I also like wheel guns, specially the old stuff.
    What I like to carry is 1911's. I am very, very fast to quick draw a 1911.

    Im also always pleased to see, read, or hear about positive police stories involving firearms. That's how it is suppose to be.

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    I've had any number of York County deputies see me carrying when I am in local parking lots, esp. the one for Food Lion. They all notice, but just nod and pass by. Never a problem. Sheriff Diggs has done a great job in spreading the word to his staff.

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    Newport News flashback for me. I was there in the late 80's while stationed in the shipyard. Is that part of town still dangerous at certain times of the day? as for the encounter, you folks in Va seem to have some great gun laws and knowledgeable LEO's from what I have read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fran View Post
    and knowledgeable LEO's from what I have read.
    I won't go there this early in the evening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    Well, lots of advantages. Would welcome more frequent sightings of revolvers, like the one below:



    Well, do yah, punk?
    You need to come to a dinner once in a while Repeater. I think I see that gun once in a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fran View Post
    Newport News flashback for me. I was there in the late 80's while stationed in the shipyard. Is that part of town still dangerous at certain times of the day? as for the encounter, you folks in Va seem to have some great gun laws and knowledgeable LEO's from what I have read.
    I used to live there also. I occasionally visit relatives on the peninsula. "That part" of town (East End) is worse, dangerous in broad daylight. Even Denbigh is a rough place to live now, and in the early 80's it was one of the safest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Glad it was positive. I had bad reports about NNPD harassing photographers recently and am in the process of setting up to find out if they widespread problems or just a few cops.

    The advantages of Revolvers...

    Stronger, usually more accurate, don't have to chase brass, faster out of the holster first shot potential.

    Disadvantages....

    Less pointable, less concealable.
    I changed my carry piece to a S&W M&P40c, whch has no safety. I had a conversation with a retired LEO (at Bass Pro) about carrying it with one in the chamber. He said that if I needed it, there likely wouldn't be time to chamber a round. He also said that when he practiced on the police range, his 1st 2 shots would likely end up in the dirt, but that he didn't care. He just continuued to bring the gun up to target and kept on firing. He felt that this was quite effective, as he would gain the advantage because it rattlled the bad guy. I switched to carrying with a round chambered. And oh, yeah, now I have (at least) 10 shots.
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    I changed my carry piece to a S&W M&P40c, whch has no safety. I had a conversation with a retired LEO (at Bass Pro) about carrying it with one in the chamber. He said that if I needed it, there likely wouldn't be time to chamber a round. He also said that when he practiced on the police range, his 1st 2 shots would likely end up in the dirt, but that he didn't care. He just continuued to bring the gun up to target and kept on firing. He felt that this was quite effective, as he would gain the advantage because it rattlled the bad guy. I switched to carrying with a round chambered. And oh, yeah, now I have (at least) 10 shots.
    A round in the chamber is essential no matter what you carry.

    I carry a 1911 when I have to carry an Auto. It is as fast as a double action revolver, more pointable and powerful enough. You still have to chase brass and a few personal dislikes that don't matter to others.

    A single action revolver is the fastest first round handgun, but not practical for Burb Carry.

    Police like the .40 and high capacity. Many don't shoot well and that's where the phrase "Spray and Pray" came from. Solid, first shot center mass or center groin, shots come from practice. Thousands of rounds from every position possible. There isn't any substitute.

    I have a special dislike for the .40. The guns chambered for it are generally smallish and light and the little high pressure cartridge gives too much recoil for them...and the brass is usually unsuitable for reloading.

    I collect the brass at ranges to swage out and use as jackets for my 45/70 bullets.

    My first choice in a cartridge is the.45 Colt but it's hard to find guns that can be tuned for acceptable double action work so my second choice is the .44 Magnum.

    The bottom line is you have to find a gun/cartridge that works for you...
    Then shoot it a hell of a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resto Guy View Post
    I used to live there also. I occasionally visit relatives on the peninsula. "That part" of town (East End) is worse, dangerous in broad daylight. Even Denbigh is a rough place to live now, and in the early 80's it was one of the safest.
    Denbigh was a nice place to live in the late 80's. Did they empty out Hampton and Jefferson Ave by the shipyard and move the undesirables up there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    He also said that when he practiced on the police range, his 1st 2 shots would likely end up in the dirt, but that he didn't care. He just continuued to bring the gun up to target and kept on firing.
    The difference stalking with your gun "up" as opposed to "down" is that even if firing from a "down" position you still have a high potential to place a shot, if only on the legs or lower torso of your target.

    Coming from an "up" stance (you know, like so many of those ridiculous cop drama shows) does nothing to that effect, plus you are bending at the elbow and have to adjust more to get on target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fran View Post
    Denbigh was a nice place to live in the late 80's. Did they empty out Hampton and Jefferson Ave by the shipyard and move the undesirables up there?

    Nothing was "emptied out", just ran out of room. Think roaches.
    I read that the NNPD Headquarters was relocated out of the East End. Too much crime, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resto Guy View Post
    Nothing was "emptied out", just ran out of room. Think roaches.
    I read that the NNPD Headquarters was relocated out of the East End. Too much crime, I guess.
    Roaches, that is a good one. I used to hate leaving the shipyard and walking to my car on Washington Avenue. Not a good neighborhood at all.

    Are the mansions that overlooked the shipyard still there? Those were nice homes in a lousy area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fran View Post
    Roaches, that is a good one. I used to hate leaving the shipyard and walking to my car on Washington Avenue. Not a good neighborhood at all.

    Are the mansions that overlooked the shipyard still there? Those were nice homes in a lousy area.
    I think you are talking about those on Huntington, near the North Yard. As far as I know they are still there.
    In the late 70's I used to pick up my father-in-law after second shift. It was a gate somewhere around 34th. Talk about a freak show traveling the sidewalks! I think a guy with 45 cents could probably pick up anything he wanted, and some things he didn't want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resto Guy View Post
    I read that the NNPD Headquarters was relocated out of the East End. Too much crime, I guess.
    Yeah... fancy new place where the old King's department store was.

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    maybe not OT. but i know all my tow truck driving friends carry and i have not had one yet. that didn't let me carry in the truck
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    A round in the chamber is essential no matter what you carry.

    I carry a 1911 when I have to carry an Auto. It is as fast as a double action revolver, more pointable and powerful enough. You still have to chase brass and a few personal dislikes that don't matter to others.

    A single action revolver is the fastest first round handgun, but not practical for Burb Carry.

    Police like the .40 and high capacity. Many don't shoot well and that's where the phrase "Spray and Pray" came from. Solid, first shot center mass or center groin, shots come from practice. Thousands of rounds from every position possible. There isn't any substitute.

    I have a special dislike for the .40. The guns chambered for it are generally smallish and light and the little high pressure cartridge gives too much recoil for them...and the brass is usually unsuitable for reloading.

    I collect the brass at ranges to swage out and use as jackets for my 45/70 bullets.

    My first choice in a cartridge is the.45 Colt but it's hard to find guns that can be tuned for acceptable double action work so my second choice is the .44 Magnum.

    The bottom line is you have to find a gun/cartridge that works for you...
    Then shoot it a hell of a lot.
    Well I don't have as much experience as alot of you guys, but I sure like my Springfield xdm .40. It shoots pretty damn good without alot of recoil, and 17 rounds without reloading is tough to beat. Plus it is very easy to break down and clean. I have never shot a 1911, but there is so much talk of love for them, I think my next gun may be a 1911. I hear Ed Brown makes some nice ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonesy View Post
    I hear Ed Brown makes some nice ones.
    Yep.

    As does Wilson Combat, Les Baer, Luke Volkmann and others.
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