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RKBA and the Terror Watch List

Jack House

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OMG! People never convicted of a crime legally bought a gun! The world is going to end in a blood bath! Run for the hills! Not those, they have eyes!


Between February 2004 and December 2010, 1,453 people on the terror watch list have attempted to buy firearms or explosives. Of those, 90 percent of the people were allowed to go through with their purchases. There is no public information about anyone on the watch list who was allowed to buy a firearm using it in a crime.
Translation: In the last 7 years, some 1500 people on the terrorist watch list purchase guns. Of those people, exactly zero have used them in a crime. Of those, exactly zero used them to further their terrorist goals.

The only terrorist act involving guns, was that by a man in the US Army, whom had been reported for insanity and never ended up on the watch list. :rolleyes:
 
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McX

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i'm probably on the list. Being a Secessionist and all. Plus i'm trapped in a never ending loop: I wont fly because they wont let me take my gun on the plane, they wont let me take my gun on the plane, so i wont fly.
 

TFred

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Here is the fatal flaw

This will never work. It astounds me that there are Senators who are so clueless on issues that are so important.

Giving the benefit of the doubt that there may be people who could use a little bit of extra scrutiny for whatever reason... the policy of the DHS is to not tell them that they are on a list, or under some form of surveillance, etc... So what happens if you deny these folks the ability to buy a gun? If they are otherwise eligible, it won't be hard to figure out they're on "the list."

The last two paragraphs of the article sum it up:

Every time someone tries to buy a gun in the U.S., the background checks include the terror watch list. When there is a match, the information is shared with the FBI case agent who is leading the terrorism investigation, according to a counterterrorism official who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss the process.

To deny all people on the watch list from purchasing a weapon would mean the government would have to tell someone he or she is on the list. A person who knows he is on a watch list could change his behavior or even his identity to avoid detection, the official said.​

What Lautenberg is literally doing is trying to push his fear of guns to a higher priority than what should be a legitimate effort to keep terrorists from blowing things up and killing people.

How can you get it any more wrong than that?

TFred
 
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