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    Florida Open-Carry killed by Senator Bogdanoff

    Senator Ellyn Bogdanoff amended the bill and removed the open carry provision from the open-carry bill. Bogdanoff is now Obama's new BBF in the fight to take away gun rights from citizens. It will probably be another 24 years before we get a chance at passing a similar bill thanks to Senator Bogdanoff Florida's new candidate, and Obama's newest friend in repealing the 2nd amendment.

    Bogdanoff's Amendment: http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill...nt/688734/HTML

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    sailingwindward:

    Did The Amendment Pass?

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    Passed this morning.

    04/28/2011 Senate Read 3rd time
    Passed as amended; YEAS 26 NAYS 11

    Statutes, is amended to read:
    7 790.053 Open carrying of weapons.
    8 (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection
    9 (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about
    10 his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It
    11 shall not be a violation of this section for a person who is
    12 licensed to carry a concealed firearm, and who is lawfully
    13 carrying it in a concealed manner, to accidentally or
    14 inadvertently display the firearm to the ordinary sight of
    15 another person so long as the firearm is not displayed in a
    16 rude, angry, or threatening manner.

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    Angry My Reply..

    This sucks..How can he at the last minute change it like he did. I plan on contacting this guy one way or another.

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    Senator Ellyn Bogdanoff
    Email: bogdanoff.ellyn.web@flsenate.gov

    312 Clematis Street
    Suite 403
    West Palm Beach, FL 33401
    (561) 650-6833

    1845 Cordova Road
    Suite 202
    Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316
    (954) 467-4205

    212 Senate Office Building
    404 South Monroe Street
    Tallahassee, FL 32399-1100
    (850) 487-5100

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingwindward View Post
    Passed this morning.

    04/28/2011 Senate Read 3rd time
    Passed as amended; YEAS 26 NAYS 11

    Statutes, is amended to read:
    7 790.053 Open carrying of weapons.
    8 (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection
    9 (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about
    10 his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It
    11 shall not be a violation of this section for a person who is
    12 licensed to carry a concealed firearm, and who is lawfully
    13 carrying it in a concealed manner, to accidentally or
    14 inadvertently display the firearm to the ordinary sight of
    15 another person so long as the firearm is not displayed in a
    16 rude, angry, or threatening manner.
    Don't you just love it when legislators use ambiguous words in bills such as "rude?" Do they even define "rude?" This is the problem with letting lawyers write legislation -- they build in ambiguous words so they can collect big fees in court arguing the definition of "rude" one way or the other depending on who's paying their fee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingwindward View Post
    Passed this morning.

    04/28/2011 Senate Read 3rd time
    Passed as amended; YEAS 26 NAYS 11

    Statutes, is amended to read:
    7 790.053 Open carrying of weapons.
    8 (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection
    9 (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about
    10 his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It
    11 shall not be a violation of this section for a person who is
    12 licensed to carry a concealed firearm, and who is lawfully
    13 carrying it in a concealed manner, to accidentally or
    14 inadvertently display the firearm to the ordinary sight of
    15 another person so long as the firearm is not displayed in a
    16 rude, angry, or threatening manner.
    This is the wrong amendment. The above is amendment #322294 What you are reading here above was replaced with the following amendment below #688734:

    34 It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to
    35 carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who
    36 is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly
    37 and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another
    38 person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an
    39 angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

    http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill...nt/688734/HTML

    BIG difference in wording.

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    Im just guessing, if you have an IWB holster and flash your weapon it would be "rude" because it would show your undies.....

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    Sorry to hear it guy's. At least yall will have another run next year...
    Here in Texas, we only have Legislature every two years.
    I am very excited about our open carry bill and hope yall get to enjoy it soon while visiting us.
    Dont give up, get stronger and go back for more!

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    Be sure to thank Marion Hammer, as well, especially now that she is blaming OCers for the failure of the bill.

    I'm curious how can she rationalize blaming OCDO & FloridaCarry.org for an NRA approved amendment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingwindward View Post
    ...and Obama's newest friend...
    Friendship made in hell, eh? At least for Floridians and all honest, law-abiding members of the Republic known as the United States of America.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    It's circumstances like this where 'law-abiding' ceases being something to be proud of.
    "The fourth man's dark, accusing song had scratched our comfort hard and long..."
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