Florida Open-Carry killed by Senator Bogdanoff

sailingwindward · Apr 28, 2011

Senator Ellyn Bogdanoff amended the bill and removed the open carry provision from the open-carry bill. Bogdanoff is now Obama's new BBF in the fight to take away gun rights from citizens. It will probably be another 24 years before we get a chance at passing a similar bill thanks to Senator Bogdanoff Florida's new candidate, and Obama's newest friend in repealing the 2nd amendment.

Bogdanoff's Amendment: http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2011/0234/Amendment/688734/HTML

aadvark · Apr 28, 2011

sailingwindward:

Did The Amendment Pass?

aadvark

sailingwindward · Apr 28, 2011

Passed this morning.

04/28/2011 Senate • Read 3rd time
Passed as amended; YEAS 26 NAYS 11

Statutes, is amended to read:
7 790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—
8 (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection
9 (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about
10 his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It
11 shall not be a violation of this section for a person who is
12 licensed to carry a concealed firearm, and who is lawfully
13 carrying it in a concealed manner, to accidentally or
14 inadvertently display the firearm to the ordinary sight of
15 another person so long as the firearm is not displayed in a
16 rude, angry, or threatening manner.

Keithmj · Apr 28, 2011

My Reply..

This sucks..How can he at the last minute change it like he did. I plan on contacting this guy one way or another.

sailingwindward · Apr 28, 2011

Senator Ellyn Bogdanoff
Email: bogdanoff.ellyn.web@flsenate.gov

312 Clematis Street
Suite 403
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
(561) 650-6833

1845 Cordova Road
Suite 202
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316
(954) 467-4205

212 Senate Office Building
404 South Monroe Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1100
(850) 487-5100

JamesCanby · Apr 28, 2011

sailingwindward said:
Passed this morning.

04/28/2011 Senate • Read 3rd time
Passed as amended; YEAS 26 NAYS 11

Statutes, is amended to read:
7 790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—
8 (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection
9 (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about
10 his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It
11 shall not be a violation of this section for a person who is
12 licensed to carry a concealed firearm, and who is lawfully
13 carrying it in a concealed manner, to accidentally or
14 inadvertently display the firearm to the ordinary sight of
15 another person so long as the firearm is not displayed in a
16 rude, angry, or threatening manner.

Don't you just love it when legislators use ambiguous words in bills such as "rude?" Do they even define "rude?" This is the problem with letting lawyers write legislation -- they build in ambiguous words so they can collect big fees in court arguing the definition of "rude" one way or the other depending on who's paying their fee.

barmen9122 · Apr 28, 2011

sailingwindward said:
Passed this morning.

04/28/2011 Senate • Read 3rd time
Passed as amended; YEAS 26 NAYS 11

Statutes, is amended to read:
7 790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—
8 (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection
9 (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about
10 his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It
11 shall not be a violation of this section for a person who is
12 licensed to carry a concealed firearm, and who is lawfully
13 carrying it in a concealed manner, to accidentally or
14 inadvertently display the firearm to the ordinary sight of
15 another person so long as the firearm is not displayed in a
16 rude, angry, or threatening manner.

This is the wrong amendment. The above is amendment #322294 What you are reading here above was replaced with the following amendment below #688734:

34 It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to
35 carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who
36 is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly
37 and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another
38 person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an
39 angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2011/0234/Amendment/688734/HTML

BIG difference in wording.

09jisaac · Apr 28, 2011

Im just guessing, if you have an IWB holster and flash your weapon it would be "rude" because it would show your undies.....

MR Redenck · Apr 28, 2011

Sorry to hear it guy's. At least yall will have another run next year...
Here in Texas, we only have Legislature every two years.
I am very excited about our open carry bill and hope yall get to enjoy it soon while visiting us.
Dont give up, get stronger and go back for more!

WCrawford · May 1, 2011

Be sure to thank Marion Hammer, as well, especially now that she is blaming OCers for the failure of the bill.

I'm curious how can she rationalize blaming OCDO & FloridaCarry.org for an NRA approved amendment?

since9 · May 4, 2011

sailingwindward said:
...and Obama's newest friend...

Friendship made in hell, eh? At least for Floridians and all honest, law-abiding members of the Republic known as the United States of America.

ixtow · May 10, 2011

It's circumstances like this where 'law-abiding' ceases being something to be proud of.

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