• We are now running on a new, and hopefully much-improved, server. In addition we are also on new forum software. Any move entails a lot of technical details and I suspect we will encounter a few issues as the new server goes live. Please be patient with us. It will be worth it! :) Please help by posting all issues here.
  • The forum will be down for about an hour this weekend for maintenance. I apologize for the inconvenience.
  • If you are having trouble seeing the forum then you may need to clear your browser's DNS cache. Click here for instructions on how to do that
  • Please review the Forum Rules frequently as we are constantly trying to improve the forum for our members and visitors.

Verizon Wireless reserves the right to refuse access to customers if they bear arms

TrailRunner

Regular Member
Joined
Jan 27, 2011
Messages
83
Location
Winston Salem
There's only so many cell phone companies, and right now the big red V has the best coverage of all of them. Even if all I was only truly concerned with coverage in NC, they've still got the best coverage.

So, I could go to a different company, but get what I'd consider to be an inferior product. Doesn't seem to be a good option here.:banghead:
 

eye95

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 6, 2010
Messages
13,524
Location
Fairborn, Ohio, USA
There's only so many cell phone companies, and right now the big red V has the best coverage of all of them. Even if all I was only truly concerned with coverage in NC, they've still got the best coverage.

So, I could go to a different company, but get what I'd consider to be an inferior product. Doesn't seem to be a good option here.:banghead:

We all have to make our value judgments, determine what is important to us.
 

kubel

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2010
Messages
285
Location
, ,
Makes me wish I was a Verizon customer just so I could use this thread as a reference to the retentions department as to why they lost my business.
 

Fordrocks1986

Regular Member
Joined
May 15, 2011
Messages
10
Location
Hemet , ca
If Verizon didn't have me by the **** I would so leave them over this due to the fact that I'm a big gun rites activist and I won't support some one if they don't support me plus I just got this new iPhone that I'm in love with
 

M-Taliesin

Regular Member
Joined
Apr 22, 2011
Messages
1,504
Location
Aurora, Colorado
Howdy Folks!
Before I stumbled onto this thread, I visited the Verizon store in Brighton. Walked in, got the software on one of my phones upgraded, asked about new products and services, was treated with courtesy and respect, concluded my business and left.

That being said, I had the notion that I was being led to the back of the store away from the other customers right from the moment I walked in, escorted by the sales person as I checked out other phones near the front, and escorted to the door as I left.

Nothing was said about my sidearm. Aside from being escorted around the store, no indication that my weapon might be a problem for them.

While I understand that corporate policy is the topic of this thread, I have only my personal experience. The comportment of the folks at the Verizon store was friendly, helpful and courteous with no fuss raised about my openly carried firearm.

I have been a customer of Verizon for quite a number of years. There were times they angered me greatly, and others where I was floored by their service to me as a customer. I've raked them over the coals when they had it coming, and praised them when they done me good. In the case of the Brighton Verizon store, they done me good and I commend them on their demeanor. My one OC experience at the Verizon store was a positive one, and enjoyed my interaction with the folks at the store.

Perhaps it mattered that my account is a 'government' account. We have that for the discount because my wife works at the sheriff's office. I don't know if it made any difference or not, but they treated me real good. I tend to judge by how I am treated, and they were just great to me.

Blessings,
M-Taliesin
 

Aknazer

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2011
Messages
1,760
Location
California
Howdy Folks!
Before I stumbled onto this thread, I visited the Verizon store in Brighton. Walked in, got the software on one of my phones upgraded, asked about new products and services, was treated with courtesy and respect, concluded my business and left.

That being said, I had the notion that I was being led to the back of the store away from the other customers right from the moment I walked in, escorted by the sales person as I checked out other phones near the front, and escorted to the door as I left.

Nothing was said about my sidearm. Aside from being escorted around the store, no indication that my weapon might be a problem for them.

While I understand that corporate policy is the topic of this thread, I have only my personal experience. The comportment of the folks at the Verizon store was friendly, helpful and courteous with no fuss raised about my openly carried firearm.

I have been a customer of Verizon for quite a number of years. There were times they angered me greatly, and others where I was floored by their service to me as a customer. I've raked them over the coals when they had it coming, and praised them when they done me good. In the case of the Brighton Verizon store, they done me good and I commend them on their demeanor. My one OC experience at the Verizon store was a positive one, and enjoyed my interaction with the folks at the store.

Perhaps it mattered that my account is a 'government' account. We have that for the discount because my wife works at the sheriff's office. I don't know if it made any difference or not, but they treated me real good. I tend to judge by how I am treated, and they were just great to me.

Blessings,
M-Taliesin

I've found at my local Verizon store this is how they treat everyone so long as there is a floor rep available to walk and talk with a customer. I've seen up to 4 employees out on the floor greeting people like this as they walked in with another 2 behind the counter. So at least at my local store they have very good customer service, but I'll have to go there and ask them if they can get me a copy of corporate policy on this matter.
 

eye95

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 6, 2010
Messages
13,524
Location
Fairborn, Ohio, USA
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/crime/two- ... bbed-in-vb

Luckily, no one was hurt. But, what if VW did allow firearms? Would there possibly be a different outcome? Did their policy influence the BG choice? Open for debate...

Bad link. It looks like you copied the text of the link, and not the link itself. (The "..." is a giveaway.) If you go back to the source, right-click what appears to be the link and copy the link location. Then paste that link in your post.
 

hpancho

Regular Member
Joined
May 22, 2011
Messages
11
Location
Virginia
Bad link. It looks like you copied the text of the link, and not the link itself. (The "..." is a giveaway.) If you go back to the source, right-click what appears to be the link and copy the link location. Then paste that link in your post.

Thanks. Made the adjustment. Link should be fine.
 

streetdoc

Regular Member
Joined
Dec 23, 2007
Messages
341
Location
Unionville, Virginia, USA
I've been in the Verizon Wireless Main Store in Fredericksburg, VA many times for new phones, updating software and accessories, never had a problem. You can't miss what I'm OC'ing, it's a full size 45. I'll stick to Verizon, I get the service and coverage that I need.
 

eye95

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 6, 2010
Messages
13,524
Location
Fairborn, Ohio, USA
Yeah, who cares of the corporation has a no guns policy? If your store ignores that policy, keep the dollars flowing in the coffers of these antis.
 

OldCurlyWolf

Regular Member
Joined
Sep 8, 2010
Messages
907
Location
Oklahoma
Yeah, who cares of the corporation has a no guns policy? If your store ignores that policy, keep the dollars flowing in the coffers of these antis.

That statement BEGS for this question:

Are they really anti, i.e., do they actively try to make firearm ownership extremely difficult/illegal, or are they just stupid and think they are protecting their employees from danger and themselves from lawsuits?

There is a large difference between the two stances.:cool:
 

eye95

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 6, 2010
Messages
13,524
Location
Fairborn, Ohio, USA
That statement BEGS for this question:

Are they really anti, i.e., do they actively try to make firearm ownership extremely difficult/illegal, or are they just stupid and think they are protecting their employees from danger and themselves from lawsuits?

There is a large difference between the two stances.:cool:

I don't care how they got to their stance. The error has been pointed out to them. Whether their corporate position is due to willful ignorance or a belief that the right should not exist, I don't care. The net effect is the same, and the company deserves the blame.

If they do not change their policy by December, when my contract is up, they will lose my business. Period.
 

We-the-People

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 13, 2009
Messages
2,221
Location
White City, Oregon, USA
I don't care how they got to their stance. The error has been pointed out to them. Whether their corporate position is due to willful ignorance or a belief that the right should not exist, I don't care. The net effect is the same, and the company deserves the blame.

If they do not change their policy by December, when my contract is up, they will lose my business. Period.

+1 for Eye95

Does it matter that the schools aren't against your right to bear, just that they think it's safer if they ban guns from campus (cause we all know criminals then won't show up...so much safer).

Does it matter that your employer is a "Staunch supporter" of the second amendment but then creates a "no weapons in the workplace" policy because "his lawyer/insurance/_____" said he should?

Doe it matter if members of the brady bunch really think that it's safer to keep your guns at home or that they're actually against your guns period?


Well, would it matter to you if they didn't like the color of your skin or that you're in an interracial marriage and discriminate against you?

While I support the right of private property owners to regulate who, what, and when people/thing come onto their property, I also believe that when private property is opened to the public at large (not private clubs but thing like businesses with open doors) then they voluntarilly give up some of that control and Constitutional Rights of others should then trump their right to control access. Keep it a membership or otherwise limited venue (i.e. CostCo, SamsClub, the dang members only strip club) and maintain control over admittance. Open the doors, such as the majority of businesses, malls, etc. in this country....and you have to accept whoever walks in so long as they're lawful.

That's not the case as things stand but wouldn't it be nice?
 

eye95

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 6, 2010
Messages
13,524
Location
Fairborn, Ohio, USA
Anyone who starts a sentence with, "I am a strong supporter of the 2A, but..." is immediately suspect. Most of them have no earthly idea of the genesis or the meaning of the 2A. They mean that they support the right to hunt, or maybe the right to have a gun in the home to defend oneself and one's family. They don't support the real meaning and intent of the 2A.

It means that we have the right as individuals and as a group to have arms to use when needed as individuals or as a group, whether the target is an animal we intend to use for food and clothing, or an animal that threatens us, or an animal on two feet who preys on people, or tyrants who would keep us in bondage.

(BTW, do not read that last part as advocacy for open rebellion. There is yet nothing warranting rebellion. That is not to say there will never be nor to say that there have not been instances of tyrannical action.)

We arm ourselves because we want to be prepared for danger, not because it is immediately present.
 

Billy

Regular Member
Joined
Mar 14, 2009
Messages
64
Location
Merritt, Missaukee County, Michigan, USA
M1.Gunner ~

Thanks for your report on this matter with Verizon.

Just noticed the thread tonight, and though I've not yet read the follow-up posts, I wanted to comment on your letter and bring up a couple points about this company and the individual who cranked-off that lame response.

> Marsha and the company she represents show forth a clear disdain for our God-given, inalienable rights.

> As the people of leadership and authority within Verizon made a an unrighteous and thinly-veiled accusation against those who carry for all lawful intent, it is they who are in violation of that which is written,

"These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbor; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates: and LET NONE OF YOU IMAGINE EVIL IN YOUR HEARTS AGAINST HIS NEIGHBOR; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD." -Zechariah viii. 16-17 [AV]

I think it sad that many folks today are flat-out ashamed of the Lord and fearful of the liberty He grants (which requires understanding, knowledge and responsibility). This Word came to mind, "Except the LORD build the house, they labor in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain." (Psalm lxxvii. 1 [AV])

Take care, man...

Respectfully,
Billy
 

DWCook

Activist Member
Joined
Sep 28, 2010
Messages
432
Location
Lenexa, Kansas
I personally have never had Verizon service and never will. I have had other carriers such as AT&T and the current 2 providers up in Alaska when I lived up there. Currently I have Sprint as they offer the better deal on plans and phones. Also I have had less issues with Sprint when it comes to going to there stores here in Kansas with my firearm. One of the employees at the store up the street from me keeps a firearm in his car at all times, he told me if Sprint allowed him he would've carried it even on the job.
 
Top